To be totally fed up with dogs?

[dogtroubl]

When we moved in, neighbours had an old dog that used to wander into our garden and leave poo everywhere. Couldn’t use garden with young kids due to mess and large dog.

Complained (politely), after quite a bit of unpleasantness fence finally fixed, dog died and they got 2 new dogs that were loud but contained.

Neighbours moved, new neighbours also have 2 dogs and fence is in a bad state of repair again due to the constant barking, snarling and scratching that happens every time we go outside. I always make sure I’m out there with the kids in case it breaks because they don’t sound friendly at all.

Their neighbours also have 2 dogs so the 2 sets are always setting each other off barking.

Family members also have dogs. One very old who soils everywhere and one very large, young dog who is very playful and jumps up and licks and dribbles all over you.

My daughter is terrified (the dog is easily as tall as her) and the family member always says dog will be shut away when we go over, but dog is always let or gets out soon after. I can tell my daughter’s fear of this dog irritates the family member but she’s genuinely scared after an incident when she was a toddler, plus this dog is like a horse to her and could do serious damage even with just a nip.

We’ve been to a few kids’ playgrounds over the holidays, dogs off lead and running all over the place at each one. Chasing kids in a “playful” way that scares them.

Dog poo all over footpaths and verges everywhere. Kids tread in it, I tread in it, buggy goes in it because I don’t see it until it’s too late.

I know it’s bad owners not the dogs’ fault etc but AIBU to just be totally fed up with dogs?

It just emits noise so presume so, they are harmless.

I have managed to take both my kids and my dog to the park.

Whilst walking to the playground I put her on a lead. I wait outside the playground with the dog (on a lead). After the kids have played in the park we walk over to the park and then I’ve let my dog off.

Very simple, but then I am a considerate person.

There is too many dogs now, the breeding rates are through the roof.

We've lost sight of reality, accusing anyone with more than 2 DC as selfishly ruining the environment, decreasing human birth rates and then replacing the impact with meat eating dogs that can't pay taxes or work. 🙄

I accidentally became a dog owner, I paid a homeless man to surrender his 7 wk old puppy, she cost me a small fortune in vet bills prior to that I refused to buy the DC one for years.

I mean to actually hate dogs and wish they didn't exist when they evidently give so many people so much happiness, there has to be something wrong with wanting that not to exist

[quote Trixiefirecracker]@HELLITHURT here’s link to an article with stats saying bites and attacks have definitely increased massively since lockdown, which is presumed to be a direct result of lack of training and socialisation. amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/apr/15/dog-bite-britain-the-problem-with-the-pandemic-puppy-explosion[/quote]
I didn't ask that, I asked about 8000 people hospitalised a year.

@HELLITHURT I’m sure you can google it, it’s the first thing that comes up.
Latest figures show NHS hospitals have seen an almost 5% increase in dog-related admissions between 2015 and 2018. Figures show an average of around 7,693 admissions to NHS hospitals a year for dog-related injuries, with a total of 23,078 between 2015 and 2018.6 Jun 2019

Here’s a more recent link… www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9164699/amp/Health-Adult-hospital-admissions-dog-bites-TRIPLED-England-20-years.html

I see more and more cafes allowing dogs in - and you only have to look at the voting on this thread to see how unpopular that it.

And of course Mumsnet is a fair representation of the nation as a whole.

I am seeing more places opening up where being dog friendly is their USP. Places like this one

coffilab.co.uk/

But they are allowed to. I realise it must be awkward when the only cafe in the village is dog friendly - but rural/remote areas usually are more dog friendly than cities, something you may wish to bear in mind when choosing a holiday location. When we went to the Lake District the local village pub had dog beer.

sorry if I don’t believe you, I’ve witnessed many an ‘obedient’ dog loose it’s shit around livestock, rabbits, cats and birds etc. They are never ‘under control’ off a leash. Even dogs with the best recall or obedience training in the world can still have their unpredictable moments

@Trixiefirecracker you’re right and wrong here in my experience. I would never have my dog off lead around sheep or cats, just in case. I do have her off lead around cows and horses, as she and I are both safer that way in the unlikely event that the animal charges. Any other time I’m totally comfortable with her off lead, though I will sometimes put her back on one if someone is visibly uncomfortable or if another dog walker has put their approaching dog on it’s lead (which suggests to me that their dog is reactive, and so I do my best to help calm things)

What I’m not going to do is any of the following

1. keep my dog permanently on a lead, because little 5 year old Penelope has absorbed her parents fears of dogs
2. pay for an expensive dog licence that is designed to price poor people out of dog ownership
3. not bring her with me to dog-friendly cafes and pubs (see again Penelope)
4. keep my dog away from parks (too busy for dogs apparently) and rural beauty spots (too peaceful for dogs apparently)
5. lock my dog away in her own home when I have visitors

…all of which have been suggested on this thread by people who point the finger as dog owners as being ‘entitled’

@cowskeepingmeupatnight

I wouldn’t do any of those 5 things either.

[quote Trixiefirecracker]Here’s a more recent link… www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9164699/amp/Health-Adult-hospital-admissions-dog-bites-TRIPLED-England-20-years.html[/quote]
I thought this bit was interesting:

‘ Among these, the biggest increase in hospital admission rates were seen among women between the ages of 35–64, which the team described as 'one of the most unexpected findings of [the] research.'’

IME these are the people most likely to talk to their dogs like an indulged child rather than with authority. And of course most dog bites are actually the dog biting its owner rather than a random stranger. I suspect people are (as the much hated on here phrase goes) making a rod for their own back.

I get it. My disabled ds is very afraid of dogs and there are always people who even seeing he is terrified and very disabled allow their dogs to run up to him. It really pisses me off.

My SIL went from someone who had never been around dogs in any way, to someone who decided she needed a dog because she was depressed. She made a half hearted attempt at training it, but the barking and the jumping up is constant. The dog is small, so everyone just tolerated the behaviour (SIL lives with her elderly parents).

Then she got depressed again and decided to add another puppy to the mix. This puppy is now a medium sized dog, but bulky and strong. When it jumps up and barks, it's very intimidating and the clawing is destructive and painful. She makes no effort whatsoever to stop this behaviour. I now HATE visiting DP's parents, purely because of the dogs. Yes, I'm pissed off at SIL for not making the effort to train them, but the dogs are the ones jumping up on me and the DC, so it's the dogs I can't stand. The anger I feel when they're barking and jumping up, scrabbling over us on the sofa etc is visceral and instinctive.

This, combined with taking up running, has made me really dislike dogs. I have too many examples of dogs making my life a bit more shit when out running to list here. So yes, it's the fault of the owners and all that, but how does knowing that help when some mutt has it's nose up your backside or is bounding around you causing a trip hazard, while you try to mind your own business?

@Trixiefirecracker

It just emits noise so presume so, they are harmless.

I have a dog who is lovely so don't get me wrong I love dogs. However the dog down the road the barks every time it goes outside is soooo annoying! My DF had a dog dazer for when he used to hike abroad in very remote areas. Stray or aggressive dogs used to approach and a quick zap of a dog dazer and they stop and rethink! It is a high frequency noise. A bit like a badger deterrent for you garden. But you just press it when needed.

My neighbour has a dog that barks relentlessly and it’s awful, I can’t even sit and relax in my own garden and enjoy the beautiful weather. Some dogs are an absolute pain in the arse.

I would also hazard a guess those are accidents rather than aggression, such as getting a finger when going for a treat, puppy getting carried away with belly scratches and nipping a hand etc.

Still pales in comparison to injuries caused by human to human

It’s about time that relentless breeding of dogs was banned, so many unscrupulous people just buy a dog and breed it knowing they can sell their pups on for thousands.

It’s arsehole owners though isn’t it? Having said that, it is still natural to hate certain dogs because of their owners.

I mean @cowskeepingmeupatnight quite clearly finds the little “Penelope’s” of the world annoying, in other words…. children. What she really means is she finds the over entitlement of little Pennies parents annoying.

Personally it’s the over - entitlement that grinds people.

I don’t see it as a hardship to put your dog on a lead on a pedestrian pathway…. by not doing that you are displaying over entitlement in respect of your dogs needs.

Parents….. don’t let your kids just randomly go up to dogs and start petting them without asking first as that’s you being over entitled.

A little consideration both ways goes a long way!

Right I’m off to walk my 🐕 the sun is shining ☀️ ☀️ ☀️

My dog will be on a lead on busy pedestrian pathways because I have the awareness to consider others.

She will then be let off on the open fields, whilst I pick up the 💩 and place in the bin.

Happy days! 🤣

@Tulipblacksmith

It’s arsehole owners though isn’t it? Having said that, it is still natural to hate certain dogs because of their owners.

I mean @cowskeepingmeupatnight quite clearly finds the little “Penelope’s” of the world annoying, in other words…. children. What she really means is she finds the over entitlement of little Pennies parents annoying.

Personally it’s the over - entitlement that grinds people.

I don’t see it as a hardship to put your dog on a lead on a pedestrian pathway…. by not doing that you are displaying over entitlement in respect of your dogs needs.

Parents….. don’t let your kids just randomly go up to dogs and start petting them without asking first as that’s you being over entitled.

A little consideration both ways goes a long way!

I’m not sure what your obsession with pedestrian pathways is. Have you ever been to a public park? Pathways in parks are not just used by pedestrians but by people cycling and on scooters etc.

You are right that everyone has to find a way to rub along together. I do that by having a well trained dog. Off lead when it’s safe and on lead if it’s not safe. If the path is busy, particularly with cyclists and scooters, he’ll be on lead. If it’s quieter he’ll be off lead.

Since you are so obsessed with pedesstrian footpaths are you also claiming kids with scooters or people cycling are entitled? Or just dog owners taking a totally reasonable, risk based approach to whether their dog is off lead or on lead?

@Tulipblacksmith

Right I’m off to walk my 🐕 the sun is shining ☀️ ☀️ ☀️

My dog will be on a lead on busy pedestrian pathways because I have the awareness to consider others.

She will then be let off on the open fields, whilst I pick up the 💩 and place in the bin.

Happy days! 🤣

Oh the dog will only be on lead on busy pedestrian pathways?

What about quiet ones?

YANBU. Twice in the last month I’ve had dogs off lead coming bounding up and jumping at my 4y/o, fortunately the dogs were not being aggressive but it was frightening for DD. Both times the owners just giggled and trilled ‘ooh sorry, they just want to play’. They were lucky I didn’t boot their dogs away from my child.

Taking our dog on a day trip to Cambridge today to enjoy the nice weather and (shock horror) get some off lead time. Kids watch out!! evil laugh 😈

@Tulipblacksmith

I have managed to take both my kids and my dog to the park.

Whilst walking to the playground I put her on a lead. I wait outside the playground with the dog (on a lead). After the kids have played in the park we walk over to the park and then I’ve let my dog off.

Very simple, but then I am a considerate person.

So you let your dog off the lead...shock, horror, in a park. You've spent your time, on here, lauding it over one particular poster, that you never let your dog of its lead in a park. You are this responsible, considerate owner. So why didn't you drive to a field on this occasion?

Off to beach with my 2 labs.