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AIBU?

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AIBU to suggest that civil unrest may soon come.

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HappyDays40 · 11/04/2022 13:31

Just been listening to a programme on the radio about finance and 3% rise in benefits. The programme explained that there is generally an 8% rise on costs of living. There was a food club charity who collect and redistribute near to the sell by date food for a very discipline saying that they're having to turn people away. Then a woman came on saying that she is feeding herself 4 children and husband on £1900.00 a month which although sounds like a large sum when it's got to feed, clothe etc six people it isn't a lot. The woman said that she has to ration fruit, has to get her children to put their pyjamas on when they get home as they can't afford wear and tear on their clothes. She hasn't hated he house so the family can eat!
It sounds nightmarish I just feel like what the heck is his county doing to people when they are having to live like this. Sorry for the rant but feel free to contribute to my rantings.
I predict a riot!

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Nat6999 · 11/04/2022 21:56

We need a long hot summer for rioting, remember how hot it was during the riots in the 80's. The whole country needs bringing to a standstill, national strikes, don't forget the 3 day week forced Edward Heath to call an election & even though he won he didn't have enough seats for a majority & Labour were the party who took over the governing of the country.

AllOfUsAreDead · 11/04/2022 22:02

There won't be protests. There won't be riots.

We will vote in the women hating, poor hating tory scum again, because the women hating Labour Party are worse, apparently.

Fiefofum · 11/04/2022 22:11

@MissPoldark

Just how many threads do we need on this? What do you hope to achieve? There’s a real risk that people talk this up so much it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Also I can’t help but think that at the moment there are many people in the world who would positively relish in seeing civil unrest in the U.K., so it’s in the interests of some to actively encourage this.

I’m all for taking action to force positive change , but not by hurting each other or trashing the places we live.

This.

I can’t help but think that Putin would love it if the UK descends into chaos. I also question why internet randoms keep raising the rioting aspect rather than more positive forms of protest and social action…

VladmirsPoutine · 11/04/2022 22:18

I'm glad people are so against civil unrest and would rather more appropriate forms of social action. We all know that women got the vote because the men woke up one morning and thought women should be given the vote, just like how slavery ended because slave owners had a moment of personal reckoning and decided to free their slaves.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 11/04/2022 22:19

Most of you complaining voted Tory and will do so again at the next General Election.

In any case who would the rioting impact? Certainly not Tory MPs in their second homes in the country or their rural supporters far away from the cities which will be impacted. They can complain about rioting scum and agitate in the DM for Patel to shoot the protesters whilst calling for an even further to the right party led by Farage to take over.

Ohwellnevermindthen · 11/04/2022 22:26

@Nat6999

It was only the poll tax riots that brought about change, look about the riots in the 80's, unemployment was high, inflation was high, we had a government who thought they could do what they wanted & nobody would stop them, we are heading that way again.

History does tend to go in cycles doesn't it?

To all those that suggest rioting is not the answer, what do you think will work instead? How do we stop a government taking the piss and not doing its job?

I have also heard people suggest not paying bills until they are lowered, but not sure how that would work on a key meter or filling up your car.

Ohwellnevermindthen · 11/04/2022 22:33

@AllOfUsAreDead

There won't be protests. There won't be riots.

We will vote in the women hating, poor hating tory scum again, because the women hating Labour Party are worse, apparently.

That's what the Tory bots on forums have you believe. Most people I know in real life have said they would never vote Tory again and I live in a very Tory area. I think people can be stoic about all this if we are being led by people who are going through it with us, but they aren't, they will always make money out of other people's misery instead and see themselves as above us. That's what is hard for people to stomach.

I think most people will put aside this issue if they are starving and freezing to death while the people who are meant to manage the economy are skipping tax and are very wealthy.

Lambington · 11/04/2022 22:33

Why would there be riots? The great British public voted this government in with an 80 seat majority - everyone knows what the Tory party are (and always have been) about. This must be what people want. I don't understand it but there we are. At least we got brexit done (whatever that means).

AllOfUsAreDead · 11/04/2022 22:40

@Ohwellnevermindthen

I hope you're right, but I've seen people on here saying they will vote tory over Labour, even though neither party support womens rights. They are happy to allow people to keep starving and freezing over it.

But hopefully they are a minority.

Nat6999 · 11/04/2022 23:05

There has been a black man arrested in Sheffield either yesterday or today evening, 7 police officers sat on him & at least 6 police cars & a riot van. It was all filmed & shared on social media, this was in an area where the biggest part of the residents are black or Asian, it only needs something to go wrong in a situation like this & rioting can start. With social media there is always someone watching & waiting to share, civil unrest doesn't take much to start.

ForensicAccountant · 11/04/2022 23:05

The British people’s idea of action against the rising cost of utilities is to switch the lights off at a time when most people go to bed. That’ll teach them!

Smokeahontas · 11/04/2022 23:15

@Ohwellnevermindthen Rioting achieves the square root of fuck all. I speak from a lifetime of experience living in Northern Ireland. What it does achieve is higher insurance premiums because shops / property / vehicles are destroyed. Policemen & women hurt. The injured taking up more space in A&E. More importantly, those who take part - usually young people - receiving a criminal conviction & fucking up any prospects they had because of it.

Anyone who gets a criminal conviction - good luck when you now need to declare that on a job application if asked, on your home / car insurance, if you need a DBS check for whatever reason, if you want to travel to countries like America / Australia.

As I said on the other thread, absolutely no one who has advocated unrest on MN will be participating in it. The closest they’ll get is a comment on an ‘AIBU to support civil unrest’.

MarshaBradyo · 12/04/2022 08:08

[quote Smokeahontas]@Ohwellnevermindthen Rioting achieves the square root of fuck all. I speak from a lifetime of experience living in Northern Ireland. What it does achieve is higher insurance premiums because shops / property / vehicles are destroyed. Policemen & women hurt. The injured taking up more space in A&E. More importantly, those who take part - usually young people - receiving a criminal conviction & fucking up any prospects they had because of it.

As I said on the other thread, absolutely no one who has advocated unrest on MN will be participating in it. The closest they’ll get is a comment on an ‘AIBU to support civil unrest’.[/quote]
Very true

Kendodd · 12/04/2022 08:10

I think most people will put aside this issue if they are starving and freezing to death while the people who are meant to manage the economy are skipping tax and are very wealthy.
I don't.
Tory austerity since 2010 had already caused massive poverty, I remember vox pops filmed in food banks before the 2019 election with the users saying they'd be voting for Johnson and there's still massive support for Brexit despite it being chrystal clear the economic harm (not to mention NI). The Tories will just point the finger, blame immigrants, Labour, covid, Ukraine (covid and Ukraine are big factors) or something, and there supports will nod along and vote Tory.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 12/04/2022 10:51

People will cope, they find a way to. They shouldn't have to but they do and they will.
People talk about crime going up, which may happen, but I don't believe it will be people trying to feed family commiting the crimes.

FourTeaFallOut · 12/04/2022 11:01

We could all stand on our doorstep at 6pm every Wednesday and just tut for a good two minutes?

OneTC · 12/04/2022 11:05

As I said on the other thread, absolutely no one who has advocated unrest on MN will be participating in it. The closest they’ll get is a comment on an ‘AIBU to support civil unrest’.

🎵"Your 'fight them on the beaches' speeches make me despair,
'Cause if there's one thing we can guarantee is you will not he there"🎵

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/04/2022 11:09

Nightlystroll

Why do you want riots? How will doing damage that has to be paid for and so will put up costs help anyone?“

This. Protests, yes of course. Riots help no-one and only serve to give the Government an excuse to dismiss as anarchists and trouble makers. Completely negates the argument.

WhiskersPete · 12/04/2022 11:11

You don't need to riot when you could just stop voting Tory instead.

KirstenBlest · 12/04/2022 14:15

Back to the woman where 4 children and parents were living on £1900 a month...

I have no idea what her disability was, or why her DH couldn't find a job, but aren't there families where one or both parents are working living on less than this?

If you saw your children going without, wouldn't you go and get a job (the DH)?

Or are they trapped in the benefits system because they would be worse off if one of the parents was working.

Could clothes not be repaired or bought cheaply or obtained from freebie sites?

I can't judge because I don't have enough informatiom

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