AIBU to suggest that civil unrest may soon come.

[HappyDays40]

Just been listening to a programme on the radio about finance and 3% rise in benefits. The programme explained that there is generally an 8% rise on costs of living. There was a food club charity who collect and redistribute near to the sell by date food for a very discipline saying that they're having to turn people away. Then a woman came on saying that she is feeding herself 4 children and husband on £1900.00 a month which although sounds like a large sum when it's got to feed, clothe etc six people it isn't a lot. The woman said that she has to ration fruit, has to get her children to put their pyjamas on when they get home as they can't afford wear and tear on their clothes. She hasn't hated he house so the family can eat!
It sounds nightmarish I just feel like what the heck is his county doing to people when they are having to live like this. Sorry for the rant but feel free to contribute to my rantings.
I predict a riot!

This is Britain. People moan and tut and express views on social media. Yet in May at local election a significant proportion will go out and vote Conservative.

I don't expect rioting.

Loads of threads started by people wanting riots, there were also lots during covid. These people will be very disappointed if there aren't riots

I struggle to understand how, with unemployment rates so low, wages aren’t rising.

Shouldn’t there be a greater spotlight on businesses to pay proper wages that families can live on?

I do feel sorry for the woman interviewed but at the same time limited the number of children that I had to two because of affordability. There has to be personal responsibility as well.

Looking on in dismay at the situation for our friends and neighbours in the UK (and despite all the griping and swiping, you ARE our friends and neighbours and indeed our family), I can't but think nothing will change until you introduce a PR system for voting.
And the Labour Party pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
(It's a bit shit here too, btw, (massive ongoing seemingly irresolvable housing crisis/health budgets etc) but it seems worse across the pond.)

@SunscreenCentral

Looking on in dismay at the situation for our friends and neighbours in the UK (and despite all the griping and swiping, you ARE our friends and neighbours and indeed our family), I can't but think nothing will change until you introduce a PR system for voting. And the Labour Party pull themselves up by their bootstraps. (It's a bit shit here too, btw, (massive ongoing seemingly irresolvable housing crisis/health budgets etc) but it seems worse across the pond.)

Whereabouts are you?

@AlternativePerspective

There seem to be numerous threads suggesting that we should be/will soon be/should expect riots. So why aren’t those posters out in the street rioting then?

It's bloody cold

Wait till the Summer!

I genuinely feel like if we're sick enough of living this way, we will take that to the polls and vote the absolute shower of shite running the country to kingdom come.

Which of the dozens of political parties across a very wide socio-political spectrum that have any chance of winning the next election do you recommend that we vote for? Preferably also one that doesn't seek to gaslight us all on biology - where we always maintain a policy of 'follow the science except when we don't'?

I think we need to riot. Otherwise they will continue to take the piss out of us. It's been long overdue imo.

Well, you won't get anywhere near Downing Street, Buckingham Palace or any other major places of central influence, as they have cast-iron security in place. You can try, but they'll just use your attempts as justification to tighten up the law even more to stop 'your sort of people' from civil unrest.

Other than that, you'll probably succeed in trashing your neighbour's houses and your local corner shop - maybe they are to blame and will be able to amend central government policies if you upset them enough....?

trashing your neighbour's houses

Errantly misplaced apostrophe - chances are that each of your neighbours will only have one house.

@MichelleScarn it’s no trope . Brexit was always going to be the most damaging economic policy in history. Tory voters ratified that vote. Make your bed 🤷‍♀️

[quote Thesefeetaremadeforwalking]@Fedupbuyer

Is that is £1900 after bills?

I'm curious about that as well. OP, can you clarify? [/quote]
She was disabled and her OH was unemployed, 4 kids. It was on You and Yours on Radio 4

When people are working full time and not being paid a living wage their self esteem will already be at a low ebb. Then add to that having a government who use part of people's taxes to pay for universal credit to top up their wages. Remember even these low paid people are paying taxes of which part is used for universal credit payments and the whole system starts to look crazy.
People are being financially crippled with high taxes ever increasing inflation, unbelievably high fuel costs
Yes I do believe people have had enough and will revolt unless the government start to help them cope

Someone on another thread said we need inequality to give poor people something to aspire to, so they work hard.

@Happygirl79 Tell me about it, I was breaking my back and mental health as a night shift care worker for absolute basic minimum wage. And being sexually harassed, treated like a nuisance for complaining about it, and verbally abused on a regular basis. It completely destroyed my health, then my mother died and instead of time off they gave me double shifts until I had an actual breakdown. I will never work in care again, I’d rather die.

[quote DoorWasAJar]@Happygirl79 Tell me about it, I was breaking my back and mental health as a night shift care worker for absolute basic minimum wage. And being sexually harassed, treated like a nuisance for complaining about it, and verbally abused on a regular basis. It completely destroyed my health, then my mother died and instead of time off they gave me double shifts until I had an actual breakdown. I will never work in care again, I’d rather die.[/quote]
I'm so sorry to hear that.
Things have to change
People are really suffering and this government does nothing to help them. Isn't that their job?

I am baffled at what it might take for people to say enough is enough in this country. We seem to have turned into a nation of Thatcherites in which any deprivation you suffer is your own fault and you shouldn't expect anything from the government unless you are already rich.

Exactly. We’re a bunch of turkeys repeatedly voting for Christmas - it’s beyond frustrating.

If any of the people struggling voted Tory and/ or brexit I have absolutely no sympathy. This is what you chose.

I agree.
They voted for poverty not only for themselves but for others and they were told repeatedly this would be the case by every credible economist going.
Twelve years of Tory rule, have the super rich got richer over that time by chance?

I don't think so. In this country being poor is seen as a sign of personal failure not the fault of societal / government structures. The French would have wheeled out the guillotines at the mere sight of baguettes being affected by inflation. The Danes see value in providing societal childcare. This country is wedded to suffering. People were genuinely suggesting that a bag of pasta can feed a family.

Just how many threads do we need on this?
What do you hope to achieve?
There’s a real risk that people talk this up so much it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Also I can’t help but think that at the moment there are many people in the world who would positively relish in seeing civil unrest in the U.K., so it’s in the interests of some to actively encourage this.

I’m all for taking action to force positive change , but not by hurting each other or trashing the places we live.

@MissPoldark

Just how many threads do we need on this? What do you hope to achieve? There’s a real risk that people talk this up so much it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Also I can’t help but think that at the moment there are many people in the world who would positively relish in seeing civil unrest in the U.K., so it’s in the interests of some to actively encourage this.

I’m all for taking action to force positive change , but not by hurting each other or trashing the places we live.

Spot on

Someone on another thread said we need inequality to give poor people something to aspire to, so they work hard.

And it was a poor person who opined that, wasn't it....? Go on, tell me, I'm right, aren't I........?

I am not sure about rioting as such but in a lot of places there will be significant unrest.

The deeper problem is that this is not a national issue really. People in many different countries are facing the same problem, it's due to global issues like war, climate change, and the pandemic.

National governments are going to be restricted in what they can do to offset it and when they do make choices they are likely to have real downsides.

Civil unrest, protesting, boycotting yes I can see this coming. And peaceful protesting could lead to riots fairly easily. There was a historical saying about benefits being set at the lowest amount to prevent hunger to in turn prevent unrest. If things get as bad as is being predicted who knows?

For those saying we need to have a riot… Remember the 2011 riots? I was living in Birmingham at the time and remember small businesses burnt down and looted. People were killed.

@MissPoldark

Just how many threads do we need on this? What do you hope to achieve? There’s a real risk that people talk this up so much it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Also I can’t help but think that at the moment there are many people in the world who would positively relish in seeing civil unrest in the U.K., so it’s in the interests of some to actively encourage this.

I’m all for taking action to force positive change , but not by hurting each other or trashing the places we live.

I agree with this too

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4520185-Are-we-taking-bets-yet-on-when-mass-civil-unrest-will-begin-re-Cost-of-living?pg=1