Page 2 | Rishi's wife does not pay tax (millions!!) on dividends!

FlowerArranger · 2022-04-07T05:16:23+00:00

From today's Guardian : ^Rishi Sunak’s multi-millionaire wife claims non-domicile status, it has emerged, which allows her to save millions of pounds in tax on dividends collected from her family’s IT business empire.^ ^Akshata Murthy, who receives about £11.5m in annual dividends from her stake in the Indian IT services company Infosys, declares non-dom status, a scheme that allows people to avoid tax on foreign earnings.^ [[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/06/rishi-sunaks-wife-claims-non-domicile-status?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other]] Anyone as outraged by this as I am? I mean what the actual fuck?

Ayalight · 07/04/2022 07:09

6 o'clock in the morning and you are alresdy outraged. Exactly what the Guardian wants you to feel .You are worried about people living in a completely different world to you. Save yourself the stress. Life will continue. Nothing will ever seem fair in politics no matter who's in power.

RedWingBoots · 07/04/2022 07:16

@EstelleCostanza

Funny how no one bothered about any of this when Rishi was throwing what they thought was free money at them. Now he’s saying the bills have to be paid he’s the bad guy. We never change in this country, do we?

What free money?

Some of us never received furlough due to being in the groups that the Sunak deliberately refused to help while allowing some more to defraud the systems he set up.

EstelleCostanza · 07/04/2022 07:19

But lots and lots of people did. And then he was the next PM, apparently.
Now he’s getting pasted because he hasn’t forced his wife to become a UK citizen and pay tax here rather than India. Well, that’s the guardian for you. Women are mère chattels to the left these days

OutingHobby · 07/04/2022 07:19

I don't really care about politics. I can't see what she's done wrong here? It doesn't sound like a dodgy loophole but rather a clear, transparent way of arranging her taxes. Does everyone else get their taxes scrutinised in this way? I imagine there are lots of people in similar situations. The only difference is she is very very wealthy, well tough, the same rules apply to all.

balalake · 07/04/2022 07:20

Worse than this was the Tories having Lord Ashcroft in a senior role. No one resident in the UK should have non-dom status.

tara66 · 07/04/2022 07:21

They are smarter than most - people don't like that. But in this case it is an HMRC technicality.

RedWingBoots · 07/04/2022 07:21

@EstelleCostanza

Perhaps we should make laws saying no government minister can be married to a foreign citizen. All terribly progressive

The optics look bad.

He admits to having multiple breads in his household when some people are struggling to afford one loaf, and the number is increasing.

He filled up a Sainsburys staff members car but didn't know how to pay for fuel.

There is nothing wrong with being wealthy but there is a issue with being out of touch especially as a politician.

Biker47 · 07/04/2022 07:26

@Christienne

I don’t know of anyone who voluntarily pays more tax than they need to…

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Same. Everyone loves to trot out "moral" in there somewhere as well for some reason, I don't pay taxes for moral reasons, I pay the minimum I am required to by law not a penny more, if I was in a position to non-domicile myself I would, I'd move to a proper tax haven if I came into a lot of money as well.

SnarkWeek · 07/04/2022 07:26

@Christienne

I don’t know of anyone who voluntarily pays more tax than they need to…

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J K Rowling

Malibuismysecrethome · 07/04/2022 07:27

Several members of the Tory government are extremely wealthy or their spouses are. Jacob Rees Mogg, Boris (though he s always pleading poverty), Ian Duncan Smith et al. Even previous PMs such as Blair and Kinnock are now extraordinarily wealthy. Seems to be a campaign against him.

OutingHobby · 07/04/2022 07:27

He admits to having multiple breads in his household when some people are struggling to afford one loaf, and the number is increasing. what's the problem with him having multiple breads? He's obviously paid well and his wife is very wealthy. It would be odd of them to try and pretend they have no money and are sruggling, people would be up in arms if they tried that.

The care thing was weird but I don't see what his wife or his bread habits have to do with him running the economy.

NoOtherShadeOfBlue · 07/04/2022 07:28

Austerity kills people - the poorest and most vulnerable. And it isn't a necessity, it's an ideological choice. Sunak could choose to stop people freezing or starving to death this winter. He has made the choice instead to push them into poverty and desperation. While he himself enjoys a wealth unimaginable to most people. He has no concept of the reality everyone else except a tiny percentage of unbelievably privileged people live in and he wields this power without a shred of understanding of the consequences.

RedWingBoots · 07/04/2022 07:28

@EstelleCostanza

But lots and lots of people did. And then he was the next PM, apparently. Now he’s getting pasted because he hasn’t forced his wife to become a UK citizen and pay tax here rather than India. Well, that’s the guardian for you. Women are mère chattels to the left these days

Lots and lots of people didn't get free money.

He was the next PM until he screwed up over the cost of living crisis.

He has repeatedly shown himself as being completely out of touch. The Guardian is showing us why.

Lots of Tories and politicians from other parties are extremely wealthy. (You can't be an MP if you don't have money.) Other politicians have the sense to know not to say they have multiple breads when they know people are struggling to feed themselves plus know how to do basic things like pay for items in shops.

OutingHobby · 07/04/2022 07:29

I can't see them firing the guy because his wife is wealthy and they have more than one loaf of bread in the house. Not when people have been breaking actual laws with the whole lockdown party thing and still have jobs.

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FlowerArranger · 07/04/2022 07:32

Some people are not getting it. Just because someone is a citizen of another country doesn't mean they don't have to pay tax in the UK!

Tax status is not automatically linked to citizenship. The Chancellor's wife has ACTIVELY CHOSEN to be non-domiciled even though she lives in the UK, in order to save tax.

If she wanted the Indian people to benefit from her dividends, she could contribute to charities there rather than choose to pay her taxes there. For one thing she'd have more control over where her money goes and who would benefit.

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EstelleCostanza · 07/04/2022 07:34

How is failing to compel his wife to adopt U.K. citizenship and pay tax here rather than her country of domicile «out of touch»? I mean I know the guardian these days generally approves of women being used as instruments to further mens goals, but I’m surprised to find the same views here

stuntbubbles · 07/04/2022 07:35

In general I don’t think being rich should preclude you from government office
Ooh, I do. Can’t govern if we’ve eaten you

NETSRIK · 07/04/2022 07:36

Nothing surprises me anymore about Tories and their values. Parasites.

ENoeuf · 07/04/2022 07:36

I don’t care if he goes. He doesn’t need the job, he isn’t amazing at it. I’m perfectly happy if he gets ousted.

OutingHobby · 07/04/2022 07:36

@FlowerArranger

Some people are not getting it. Just because someone is a citizen of another country doesn't mean they don't have to pay tax in the UK!

Tax status is not automatically linked to citizenship. The Chancellor's wife has ACTIVELY CHOSEN to be non-domiciled even though she lives in the UK, in order to save tax.

If she wanted the Indian people to benefit from her dividends, she could contribute to charities there rather than choose to pay her taxes there. For one thing she'd have more control over where her money goes and who would benefit.

If she's paying tax in India on her income from India then I don't see what the issue is other than greed that the UK could have the tax. We get the tax from her UK earnings.

sweepeep · 07/04/2022 07:38

@FlowerArranger you would do the exact same if it was you!! And don't pretend you wouldn't! We lived abroad and had a choice of where to pay tax...we chose the lesser of the two!! Anyone would!!

RedWingBoots · 07/04/2022 07:38

@OutingHobby

He admits to having multiple breads in his household when some people are struggling to afford one loaf, and the number is increasing. what's the problem with him having multiple breads? He's obviously paid well and his wife is very wealthy. It would be odd of them to try and pretend they have no money and are sruggling, people would be up in arms if they tried that.

The care thing was weird but I don't see what his wife or his bread habits have to do with him running the economy.

There are some things you don't voluntary say in interviews as a politician.

He was asked about the price of a loaf. He said something along the lines of "I eat a seeded thing which cost about £1.25".

He voluntary mentioned we have lots of different loaves in our household. He wasn't asked that so why volunteer?

There are now more people in this country going to food banks and limiting their shopping.

He did phone-ins on a couple of radio stations - I heard one - and he was unable to answer questions on how people on benefits deal with the increase in energy and food prices.

ABitBesottedWithMyDog · 07/04/2022 07:40

Don't blame her. I wouldn't live here with that slimy creep either.

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/04/2022 07:41

@Polyanthus2

She isn't choosing to be non domiciled - she is non domiciled as she has an Indian passport. India doesn't allow dual citizenship.

Non story really. Apparently to discredit Rishi sunak as a rival to Boris.

No, it’s not automatic, and domicile and citizenship are not the same. I appreciate it is legal though.

OutingHobby · 07/04/2022 07:42

So he should go because he volunteered that sometimes he eats seeded bread and sometimes he eats different bread?