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To wonder who all these people are, speeding?

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justonanote · 03/04/2022 02:19

Or more to the point, how they think they can get away with it, or clearly do all the time?

I do a lot of motorway driving and I see so many cars doing over 80!

See also dual carriageways near me. People do 80+!

I'll be in a lane sometimes doing 70 and I have cars behind flashing at me to speed up Shock

My question is do people not get done very much for speeding? I wouldn't really think to speed anyway but surely the strong possibility of a fine or more is a deterrent? Do people just not care?

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Jonny1265 · 10/04/2022 09:13

@Poppins2016

An idiotic friend was stopped for speeding above 90. Apparently the police officer commented that they only care about speeds over 80 on the motorway!
Why does that surprise you? They know the safety issues the speed limits on motorways are completely outdated. It's the same as them turning a blind eye to personal use of cannabis.
Kennykenkencat · 10/04/2022 10:41

@Poppins2016

An idiotic friend was stopped for speeding above 90. Apparently the police officer commented that they only care about speeds over 80 on the motorway!
The police themselves might not care but speed cameras aren’t set to over 80.

As I said I have seen people being fined for 74mph

FrankLampardsBrokenHand · 10/04/2022 15:15

It's a silly moot point really because everyone isn't driving at 90 or 100mph. On pretty much every motorway I drive on its 80mph except where flow restrictions are in place limiting speed on smart motorways.

And you'd have to be incredibly stupid to be flashed by a camera and continue speeding. For what it's worth, I've never been done speeding.

ivykaty44 · 10/04/2022 17:58

I’d disconnect the fucker.

will your insurance still be valid if you tamper with it?

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 10/04/2022 18:07

@ivykaty44

I’d disconnect the fucker.

will your insurance still be valid if you tamper with it?

I’m afraid my crystal ball is in for servicing.
DGRossetti · 11/04/2022 13:38

As I said I have seen people being fined for 74mph

There was a person on my SAC done for 31 in a 30.

I was done for 34 in a 30. I was resetting my limiter to 30 when I was snapped. Ouch.

One person was done for doing 50 across a brdge that used to be 60 and had been reduced to 40. He told the instructors that the council, the police and the courts were all wrong, and the speed limit was wrong and it wasn't their fault for driving at what the speed limit should be. (I suspec they're BFFs with some on thsi this thread).

The instructors gave them a very simple question before the entire course: Either accept your guilt, admit you broke the law, and complete this course. Or if you do not accept your guilt, and insist you were wrongly convicted, leave the course and return your case to the courts.

They shut up.

YouTubeRabbitHole · 12/04/2022 06:22

@DGRossetti

As I said I have seen people being fined for 74mph

There was a person on my SAC done for 31 in a 30.

I was done for 34 in a 30. I was resetting my limiter to 30 when I was snapped. Ouch.

One person was done for doing 50 across a brdge that used to be 60 and had been reduced to 40. He told the instructors that the council, the police and the courts were all wrong, and the speed limit was wrong and it wasn't their fault for driving at what the speed limit should be. (I suspec they're BFFs with some on thsi this thread).

The instructors gave them a very simple question before the entire course: Either accept your guilt, admit you broke the law, and complete this course. Or if you do not accept your guilt, and insist you were wrongly convicted, leave the course and return your case to the courts.

They shut up.

@DGRossetti they must’ve made that up as the way the device capturing the speeder is calibrated it isn’t that accurate. To clock someone at 31 there’s room for error which is why the majority of English police forces work on the 10%+1. Unless they showed me the paperwork from the police I wouldn’t believe them as I worked in traffic prosecutions for 15 years.

Like the PP 74/70 I can only assume it was a van on a dual carriageway where they should have been driving at 60mph rather than 70.

DGRossetti · 12/04/2022 07:46

@DGRossetti they must’ve made that up

If you say so.

Everything that was taught in my SAC has come to pass.

Hesma · 12/04/2022 07:58

It’s people who sit in the middle lane at 60 who are the biggest hazard IMO

Kennykenkencat · 12/04/2022 08:57

Like the PP 74/70 I can only assume it was a van on a dual carriageway where they should have been driving at 60mph rather than 70

Definitely a car. And a van is allowed to do 70mph.

Kennykenkencat · 12/04/2022 08:57

And on a motorway

etulosba · 12/04/2022 09:18

And a van is allowed to do 70mph.

A car derived can (weighing less than two tons) is allowed to do 70, otherwise it is 60.

etulosba · 12/04/2022 09:19

Van not can.

YouTubeRabbitHole · 12/04/2022 16:18

@Kennykenkencat

Like the PP 74/70 I can only assume it was a van on a dual carriageway where they should have been driving at 60mph rather than 70

Definitely a car. And a van is allowed to do 70mph.

A car derived van can do 70 on a dual carriageway but other than that it’s 60. National speed limit single carriageway roads a van can only do 50, cars 60. On the motorway it’s 70. Think you need to revisit the Highway Code if you plan on driving anything other than a car @Kennykenkencat
To wonder who all these people are, speeding?
junglejane66 · 12/04/2022 16:40

[quote DGRossetti]^@DGRossetti they must’ve made that up^

If you say so.

Everything that was taught in my SAC has come to pass.[/quote]
Check with the ppl over at PepiPoo as they would be interested in as much they are not aware of anyone facing a fine for 1 mph over the limit. Margin for error is too big

DGRossetti · 12/04/2022 16:48

Check with the ppl over at PepiPoo as they would be interested in as much they are not aware of anyone facing a fine for 1 mph over the limit. Margin for error is too big

This was 2014, and it wasn't my case, it was someone on my SAC (for some reason I've not had to do another ...). The instructors went around and we all confessed our sins. The instructor linked that case to a list of "reasons to learn not to speed". A list which has only become more true with each passing year. (I look forward to average cameras around 20mph zones).

Anyway, from discussions elsewhere it seems obeying the law is so last century.

Shade17 · 12/04/2022 17:00

Check with the ppl over at PepiPoo as they would be interested in as much they are not aware of anyone facing a fine for 1 mph over the limit. Margin for error is too big

It’s funny that nobody can ever produce paperwork for a speeding offence at 31 in a 30. It’s been discussed at length on Pistonheads with motoring solicitors in the mix as well and the general consensus is that it didn’t happen.

junglejane66 · 12/04/2022 17:06

@Shade17

Check with the ppl over at PepiPoo as they would be interested in as much they are not aware of anyone facing a fine for 1 mph over the limit. Margin for error is too big

It’s funny that nobody can ever produce paperwork for a speeding offence at 31 in a 30. It’s been discussed at length on Pistonheads with motoring solicitors in the mix as well and the general consensus is that it didn’t happen.

Exactly, no recorded evidence. Would think person on SAC said to appear it was just over the limit and the injustice of it all, never had a speeding ticket in 40 years, are a good driver etc.....
DGRossetti · 12/04/2022 17:13

Would think person on SAC said to appear it was just over the limit and the injustice of it all, never had a speeding ticket in 40 years, are a good driver etc.....

I don't really care what you think. That person (who was in my group of 6) was as quiet as a mouse and probably the least confrontational person you could find.

Unlike the person who (as I said) really argued the point and almost got themselves removed from the course and sent back to court. They really had a lot to say for themselves.

DW could tell you how cynical I was about attending an SAC. I thought it was a crude money making exercise done at the barrel of a gun that fires 3 licence points. However upon completion it's probably up there as the most useful few hours of my life. And I would have no hesitation in making them mandatory at 10 year intervals.

junglejane66 · 12/04/2022 17:33

@DGRossetti

Would think person on SAC said to appear it was just over the limit and the injustice of it all, never had a speeding ticket in 40 years, are a good driver etc.....

I don't really care what you think. That person (who was in my group of 6) was as quiet as a mouse and probably the least confrontational person you could find.

Unlike the person who (as I said) really argued the point and almost got themselves removed from the course and sent back to court. They really had a lot to say for themselves.

DW could tell you how cynical I was about attending an SAC. I thought it was a crude money making exercise done at the barrel of a gun that fires 3 licence points. However upon completion it's probably up there as the most useful few hours of my life. And I would have no hesitation in making them mandatory at 10 year intervals.

Ok, but in less you can show evidence it never happened
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