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AIBU?

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The world cup.....AIBU to support England but hope that Ukraine win?

94 replies

PyongyangKipperbang · 01/04/2022 19:12

Just to do a full on FUCK YOU to Russia?!

I am hoping that the war will be over by then but still.......

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Kd44 · 06/06/2022 14:50

I holiday a lot in Sri Lanka and Maldives. Illegal there. Maybe you don't, or can't afford to. Why not the outcry? Because literally doesn't matter unless you are from a truly repressive FGM type place where nobody would holiday anyway. What are you doing to rescue them from your at best Edqardian semi but probably not even that.

PurpleButterflyWings · 06/06/2022 14:56

YABU. It's bad enough that our brilliant Sam Ryder was robbed of winning Eurovision! I'm not having England losing to Ukraine at the bloody football too out of sheer sympathy. Hmm

Sparro · 06/06/2022 14:59

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 14:43

Show me an Islamic country where it isn't. Then show me an Islamic country as tolerant and peaceful. You don't know what you are talking about. And you are not prepared to listen to either expats or Qataris, both whom have contributed. Why are you so bitter?

Just because other countries do it, doesn't make it okay.

Are you LGB and living in a country where its illegal?

Sparro · 06/06/2022 15:00

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 14:50

I holiday a lot in Sri Lanka and Maldives. Illegal there. Maybe you don't, or can't afford to. Why not the outcry? Because literally doesn't matter unless you are from a truly repressive FGM type place where nobody would holiday anyway. What are you doing to rescue them from your at best Edqardian semi but probably not even that.

Not sure what the kind of house I live in has to do with the price of fish.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 06/06/2022 15:01

PurpleButterflyWings · 06/06/2022 14:56

YABU. It's bad enough that our brilliant Sam Ryder was robbed of winning Eurovision! I'm not having England losing to Ukraine at the bloody football too out of sheer sympathy. Hmm

I came on to say exactly this!

voldr · 06/06/2022 15:02

PurpleButterflyWings · 06/06/2022 14:56

YABU. It's bad enough that our brilliant Sam Ryder was robbed of winning Eurovision! I'm not having England losing to Ukraine at the bloody football too out of sheer sympathy. Hmm

You realise that a football game is not won by public vote?

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:07

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How much money do you have to have to be allowed an opinion then?

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:11

I'm glad they lost. This virtue signalling at one oppressed group is repulsive, why not put your money where your mouth is and support actual oppressed people like Yemen, where children die hourly from malnutrition, or Pakistan where gang rapes happen daily and the woman is prosecuted. Why Ukraine? Easy, because the media tells you to and they are white. Ditto hating QTT because we happen to be rich. Easy targets for the ignorant.

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:12

QATAR not qtt

voldr · 06/06/2022 15:14

Because you are poor and angry and bitter

Wow if anyone is bitter it's you. Jesus are toy a troll or just a common or garden snob?

CounsellorTroi · 06/06/2022 15:15

PurpleButterflyWings · 06/06/2022 14:56

YABU. It's bad enough that our brilliant Sam Ryder was robbed of winning Eurovision! I'm not having England losing to Ukraine at the bloody football too out of sheer sympathy. Hmm

Some people did think Wales and Scotland should step aside and let Ukraine througho. There was an article in the Telegraph I can’t link to as it’s behind a paywall. Pretty sure they would not have said the same about England.

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:16

Neither. I just don't get the hatred. People generally don't like it when the bullying is mirrored. How you are feeling now is how people by accident of birth feel when you spout your ignorant bile.

Sparro · 06/06/2022 15:19

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:16

Neither. I just don't get the hatred. People generally don't like it when the bullying is mirrored. How you are feeling now is how people by accident of birth feel when you spout your ignorant bile.

People by accident of birth what? You're not making sense.

I just think that homosexuality being illegal is disgusting, and I didn't think that was a very controversial opinion these days. I feel a lot of sympathy for people who by accident of birth are gay in a country where that is illegal. But apparently people's opinions only count if they are as rich as you claim to be.

sst1234 · 06/06/2022 15:22

The stance on Qatar is wokeness with a dollop of white saviour syndrome. Honestly Qatar is doing absolutely fine, with or without your outrage. How about directing your our outrage to less fashionable causes, outside the Guardian bubble. But like I said, virtues must be signalled, right? Otherwise what’s the point of them.

Sparro · 06/06/2022 15:35

sst1234 · 06/06/2022 15:22

The stance on Qatar is wokeness with a dollop of white saviour syndrome. Honestly Qatar is doing absolutely fine, with or without your outrage. How about directing your our outrage to less fashionable causes, outside the Guardian bubble. But like I said, virtues must be signalled, right? Otherwise what’s the point of them.

I am gay, I don't like it when gay people are prosecuted and when homosexuality is illegal. Its not wokeness its what I care about, and have done since long before it was "fashionable". Why don't you spend your time on these apparently much more worthy cause instead on insulting people on the Internet.

And no I do not believe that all LGB people in Qatar, or all migrant workers in Qatar, are doing absolutely fine.

LampLighter414 · 06/06/2022 15:46

YABU

XelaM · 06/06/2022 16:48

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:11

I'm glad they lost. This virtue signalling at one oppressed group is repulsive, why not put your money where your mouth is and support actual oppressed people like Yemen, where children die hourly from malnutrition, or Pakistan where gang rapes happen daily and the woman is prosecuted. Why Ukraine? Easy, because the media tells you to and they are white. Ditto hating QTT because we happen to be rich. Easy targets for the ignorant.

Ukrainian is in Europe! If you don't care that a European nation can just be invaded and its population killed for no reason, that says more about you.

i have nothing against Qatar, but it only got the World Cup due to unbelievable scales of corruption at FIFA. To deny that is just mad.

XelaM · 06/06/2022 16:49

Oh, and Putin is also threatening European nations that a members of NATO, so pretty serious stuff 🤷‍♀️

BusterSword · 06/06/2022 17:03

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 15:11

I'm glad they lost. This virtue signalling at one oppressed group is repulsive, why not put your money where your mouth is and support actual oppressed people like Yemen, where children die hourly from malnutrition, or Pakistan where gang rapes happen daily and the woman is prosecuted. Why Ukraine? Easy, because the media tells you to and they are white. Ditto hating QTT because we happen to be rich. Easy targets for the ignorant.

Your glad they lost because of things going on in other countries that is nit they're fault? And you get on at others for hatred.

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 17:12

No. I am glad nobody let them win though virtue signalling

BusterSword · 06/06/2022 17:23

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 17:12

No. I am glad nobody let them win though virtue signalling

Which was never going to happen.

Simonjt · 06/06/2022 18:03

sst1234 · 06/06/2022 15:22

The stance on Qatar is wokeness with a dollop of white saviour syndrome. Honestly Qatar is doing absolutely fine, with or without your outrage. How about directing your our outrage to less fashionable causes, outside the Guardian bubble. But like I said, virtues must be signalled, right? Otherwise what’s the point of them.

I’m brown, so does that mean me disliking the fact that the government in qatar would like to kill/imprison me isn’t woke or white saviour?

Kd44 · 06/06/2022 21:54

😂omg did you actually eat 5ga5 out loud?

Theluggage15 · 06/06/2022 22:23

Personally I hope the World Cup held in Qatar is a disaster. They only got it through corruption and their shameful human rights record should have disbarred them anyway. Utterly embarrassing that FIFA have allowed it to go ahead. Also think it’s appalling that countries like Qatar and Saudi are allowed to own Premier League clubs, whitewashing their terrible reputations with the approval of the FA.