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To any Jehovah's witnesses out there, would you PLEASE.............

171 replies

lucyellensmum · 07/01/2008 16:22

just leave me alone!!!!!!!!!!

I am very comfortable with my religeon thankyou very much (cathoic). I do not wish to discuss it, end of story.

Just after christmas, a lovely looking young girl with what i presume was her husband (i mean, she was really beautiful!!) Stood with her foot in my door and pushed a leaflet about death into my handsm telling me i shouldnt worry as death isnt the end. I suffer with depression, i know all about death thankyou very much, i lost my father to cancer and ever since i have had a pathological fear of dying for which i am receiving medical treatment. So, thanks for that!! That reminded me of the time i had a leaflet forced on me in the sreet, i was too polite to decline - this one was about when a child dies, i was pushing my buggy at the time - fucking great!

This morning, just over a week later, I am running late, so i am already stressed. I am TRYING to brush my little girls hair, and this is the only thing in the world that she HATES. The door knocks, im expecting my mother, so i plonk DD (who has just let out a blood curdling scream as i hit a tangle) wailing, on the floor. Answer the door, thinking it was my mum, i didnt bother to restrain my dog, who promptly runs past the two smartly dressed old dears standing at my door, making a bee line for the road (they have left the gate open). I have to barge past them to retrieve him. They then say, have we come at a bad time dear???

We are jehovahs witnesses, they say, should we come back another time . No, please don't, please dont ever come back, please just leave me alone. I have no desire to discuss my damnation with you, as i am not a good catholic, i dont go to church and i am not married to my daughters father, so i am bound surely to burn in hell anyway!

Im sorry, i know these people genuinely mean well, but surely they could put their energy to better use. I imagine some lonely and vulnerable old lady, desperate for some company may well invite these parasites into her home, only to have her head filled with hellfire damnation and will spend the rest of the day sitting fretting.

If you want to do God's work, and i really think that is admirable, i really do, then DO something, go and volunteer at the local homeless shelter, go and join the local hospital legue of friends, do ANYTHING but knock on my door - i am running out of polite ways to say i am not interested

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calzone · 08/01/2008 18:12

It just would not have been said like that.

More likely would be

'Would you have a blood transfusion then JW?'

'No I wouldnt.'

'Why not?'

'Because the Bible commands us to abstain from blood whether that be food or in hospital having a blood trans. This doesnt mean I want to die as there are so many alternatives such as blood expanders (cannot remember what the JWs call them).'

If it was God's will for people to die then we would all be happy that people die and go to heaven to a better place. As it happens, the Bible says that 'the dead are conscious of nothing at all.' ie not in heaven.

why have you not been to JW meetings for a while Junk?

calzone · 08/01/2008 18:12

sorry JENK!!!

bigbumhole · 08/01/2008 18:12

well believe what ever you like, i know what was said as i was there myself.

i think all JV are an annoyance (to me anyway)

Wisteria · 08/01/2008 18:19

Well I've had lovely, polite, easygoing JVs on my doorstep a number of times and I don't overly object as long as they leave without pushing when I say 'no, thank you'.

However, I have had some ignorant rude and pushy ones as well and that is what I really object to.

Obviously those of you with knowledge from within have seen a different side of the religion but I don't think you can deny what some posters are reporting as actual experiences, just as there is a world of difference between interpretations of Islam (suicide bombers vs the tender kind side of that faith as well).

BrownSuga · 08/01/2008 18:27

Unfortunately you do get inconsiderate people in all walks of life. If you do have a really obnoxious JW on your door, or feel very offended by them, please do write to the local congregation, to the Presiding Overseer, so he can remind everyone to be courteous and respectful in the preaching work.

calzone · 08/01/2008 19:06

are you a JW brownsuga?

oxocube · 08/01/2008 19:20

Can I just say that all the JW who have knocked on my door over the years have been nice, friendly and polite when I immediately tell them "thank you but I'm not interested." The worst ones in recent years have been charity workers trying to get me to sign up to a monthly direct debit for their chosen charity. Even when I say I'm not in a position financially to make a regular commitment but am happy to make you a one-off contribution. They then lay the guilt trip about how that isn't possible, about how most people in the area have signed up to support at least two charities and generally try to make you feel like a really shitty person. Charity marketing gone mad

No JW has ever done that to me

jenk1 · 08/01/2008 20:31

just had so much on, me and dh have split and both kids are ASD and just dont have the energy atm.

amytheearwaxbanisher · 08/01/2008 20:42

i had a pair of jws knock at my door,didnt really mind as they were veryhot!but politly said i didnt have time

calzone · 08/01/2008 22:18

Just read your profile.....Im from the northwest....where r u from?

to Jenk that is.

nelliesmum · 08/01/2008 22:23

Imagine having to do it though, I'd rather be the one inside than the one outside...

calzone · 08/01/2008 22:29

I know.

They must have real guts to do it.

saff · 08/01/2008 23:09

the magazines are free and printed by donations from jws they dont want anything except a few moments of your time to pass on amessage that they truley believe in. They are well mannered very polite and dont tend to slag off other peoples faiths whilst not actually honering their own. If you dont want them to call tell them and they wont

calzone · 08/01/2008 23:11

how do you know Saff/ about the printing?

jenk1 · 09/01/2008 09:42

im near manchester calzone.

i need to update my profile as i am a single mum and we dont have a dog any more!!!

calzone · 09/01/2008 11:40

Was your DH a JW too then?

saff · 09/01/2008 11:58

because i used to be one hon

saff · 09/01/2008 12:25

actually I would like to say that this thread has really peed me off. Most of my family are still jw as are my dh we have choose not to. But it really iritates me when ignorant people say stuff like this when they are talking out of their arses. the irony is this thread was started by a catholic mmmmmmmmm what do i know about that religion is that the one where the leadors wear frocks and say they are your father scare you with death threats and shag the choir boys? noy nice is it oh and by the way the blood thing is because they are honering their Gods wishes the fact that they are willing to die for it is called FAITH and is that not the whole point in a religion

againagainTigerFeet · 09/01/2008 12:33

saff I can see you are cross but in slagging off Catholicism that way you aren't helping your cause...

My Mum is Catholic, her faith gives her a lot of comfort and Good For Her say I. Her parish priest has never shagged a choirboy and death threats, well

saff · 09/01/2008 12:43

my mil get a lot of comfort from her faith too oh well looks like i know as much about your religion as you do about jws and can a remake the point i am not a jw so it is not my cause. I was not slagging off catholics and i think you have made the my point very well that its ok to slag off others is it not if you took it as a personal attack on your mum sorry. so did i

Wisteria · 09/01/2008 12:48

No one has just 'slagged off' JWs, it wasn't as simple as that.

What people object to is the way some JWs (not all, but enough of us seem to have had a bad experience to make it a fair comment)doorstep and won't take no for an answer, just like the charity people, they annoy me as well when they lay on the guilt trip when I'm in my own home.

againagainTigerFeet · 09/01/2008 12:53

No I didn't take it as a personal attack on my Mum at all... just making a point that being a Catholic does not make anyone a bad person any more than being a JW does. That was my first post on this thread as I felt I didn't know what I was talking about although I have been lurking with interest in the hope of perhaps learning something.
I will admit to knowing nothing about JWs but had not previously joined in the debate as I have only ever been approached by one once and she was pleasant and left when I said I wasn't interested.

Catholicism isn't my religion btw. I don't have one. Partly because it is so incredibly divisive, as this thread seems to be showing

saff · 09/01/2008 12:56

Its part off what they belive though is it so hard to say a polite no thank you. they are not gonna rob you ,if you read the threads back you lot have totally slated them even laughing about the ugly ones My mother in law has had some horrible things said and done to her and shes just a little old lady. I know that if one of you charming people needed help she would give you her last penny. very sad its not my bag but shes not pulling off puppys ears. I was brought up as one and you lot remind me of the girls that used to wait for me in the loos at lunch time

BITCATKSTHJT · 09/01/2008 12:57

My nan actually invites them in gives them a drink then starts to bombard them with questions they can't answer. There was a woman who died at the hospital close to where i live she had given birth to twins and needed a transfusion but wouldn't take it. That to me is not right thats two babies who no longer have a mother who should and would have been with them! It's very sad and it makes me angry! I just politely tell them to go away.

saff · 09/01/2008 13:10

I saw that in paper and it is very sad although someone on here said was hospital neg personally i would cut off my own leg and squeeze it dry if it saved my kid but faith is a funny thing I am not saying i agree with there beliefs but they dont deserve this much nastiness. people do unbelivable stuff in the name of religion they blow up babies on buses they tell their kids they will go to hell they refuse blood all i suppose all of us can do is help each other and try to be a good person.

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