There’s been various posts on here recently about time periods for getting engaged, ‘how long to wait’, whether to impose deadlines and all sorts. I genuinely find it surprising seeing how many people in adult relationships claim to just sit back and wait for a proposal without discussing future plans with their partner beforehand and both agreeing timescales for marriage as soon as things start to get serious (if both parties want to marry of course).
It seems that many women still expect a fairytale proposal out of the blue which comes as a complete surprise. In my mind, those are the sorts of scenarios that happen mostly in movies and much more rarely in real life?! 
So I’m genuinely interested to know, for those of you married or engaged, had you previously already discussed your plans for the future and timescales e.g. both agreed you’d like to marry by xyz number of years together, or was your proposal at the time period it occurred a complete surprise?
YABU - we hadn’t discussed it beforehand
YANBU - we had already spoken about our expectations and timescales around marriage