Page 5 | To ask what made Jeremy Kyle qualified…

ClandestineAdulation · 2022-03-13T21:09:23+00:00

… to host a talk show, give ‘advice’ and judge people the way he did? The Channel 4 programme about the show is on and it’s just made me think about it all again!

Bluelillies · 13/03/2022 23:28

My old babysitter went on the show
He came from a neglectful background with an abusive mother and an absent father
He ended up on the show as they didn’t know who the father of his ex girlfriends baby was-him or his brother who had been shagging her behind his back
It was bear bating at best-it ripped the brothers apart-they had been really close and he’d forgiven his brother (blood thicker than water I guess) and they where all bloody vulnerable young kids at best
Turned out baby was neither brothers but some bloke she’d met
Going on the show ripped the family apart-baby was taken away in the end by ss and there was zero aftercare for them
He tried to kill himself and that’s when I lost touch with him but my daughter saw him in the street and he said he was moving away-I hope he did and has got help and is living the best life he can
I wish him all the best-he really didn’t have the best start in life and going on that show really ruined a lot of lives-the aftershocks where felt by a lot of people in that family

A mate of mine was interviewing for a job and had a lad come in with his cv
He’d put that he’d been on the show and got a £20 voucher or something
He didn’t get the job

EeeICouldRipATissue · 13/03/2022 23:29

Oh please, everyone loved it at the time
No, they didn't.
Yes, a lot of people did, but just as much didn't.
I couldn't stand it, I'd watch say GMB or whatever before but had to switch off as soon as it finished as the JK show grinded and couldn't watch.
Could never understand what people saw in it - yelling in guests faces and basically playing with people's emotions.
Thought it was bullying behaviour dressed up as entertainment.
As for the argument '' they knew what they were getting into '' is a load of bollocks - that clearly wasn't the case for a lot of people.
They needed help, not putting on telly for entertainment purposes.

Thesearmsofmine · 13/03/2022 23:32

I watched the show for a month or two when my eldest was a newborn, it was on at that time of day when he would be asleep on me and I was tired and it was just easy tv. I didn’t stay a viewer for long though because it really was so awful and exploitive.and I just found it upsetting.

I know someone who went on there, he isn’t a thick or a vulnerable person, he went on for a laugh and knew what he was letting himself in for and long term hasn’t be bothered about it. I think there were probably plenty of guests like him who saw the chance of a night away, free booze and to get their 5 minutes of fame. Sadly among them there are vulnerable people who should never have been allowed to appear on the show.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 13/03/2022 23:40

I always thought he was a bully though not to the extent shown in the documentary.
I hadn't watched it for years before it ended.
Omfg what a nasty vile disturbing show.
ITV should compensate families.
JK power hungry, dirty aggressive tool.

Fayekrista · 13/03/2022 23:46

Haven't watched it yet... but always wondered... what happened to Graham??

SinisterBumFacedCat · 13/03/2022 23:57

There was an article in the guardian a few years before it got cancelled on what the production was actually like, by ex guests and whistle blowers. Like many have said on here a lot of winding up went on behind the scenes before hand in the hotel, guests would be split apart and received calls all night well into the early hours from researchers winding them up, saying their relative was calling them a liar, this went on until 4am, the guests would be suffering from sleep deprivation and stress by the time they were pulled onto the stage, as well as hungover from the free bar. I remember once seeing a man on there being berated by Jeremy for not working, it actually looked like he had a neurological disease, albeit possibly undiagnosed.

Kanaloa · 14/03/2022 00:01

@ClandestineAdulation

I use the term qualified very loosely! Some posters have said that he had a radio show and took people’s ‘confessions’ and that may be why he was picked up as the host - I didn’t know he had that ‘experience’.

That being said, I appreciate that he doesn’t have to have any particular qualifications and I doubt many (if any!) talk show hosts of this type have any experiences that make them qualified, it just baffles me that the standard for a host for a show that is supposed help people is based on entertainment factor alone.

But the show wasn’t supposed to help people. It was supposed to entertain people/bring in lots of viewers during the daytime. That’s why he was picked on entertainment value, because a show that was genuinely trying to help vulnerable people a) wouldn’t sell well and b) probably wouldn’t actually film them so would never make it to morning telly.

Firefly1987 · 14/03/2022 00:05

I meant to watch that programme about it but forgot. I remember when it first came out it was addictive viewing-I was like 17/18 and I'd watch it with a mate when we were meant to be revising lol. Then over the years it just became all about the lie detectors and I found it boring and went off it plus I've always hated him so smug and insufferable.

I don't know why he got that job either-his personal life is more screwed up than most of his guests, he can't talk at all. Never could figure Graham out whether he was a nice bloke or not. I hold JK completely responsible-he would scream at people "get off my stage" "it's called the Jeremy Kyle show" so he can't have it both ways. Now trying to distance himself from responsibility and doesn't like the tables being turned after he shouted people down about their lives for years. He's despicable and deserves all he gets.

TomBradysLeftKneecap · 14/03/2022 00:13

So, a reporter from the DAILY MAIL is condemning the Jeremy Kyle show. I’ve seen everything now.

StellaAndCrow · 14/03/2022 00:15

@MoltenLasagne

My cousin very nearly went on the show - thank god her mum and sister managed to talk her out of it. She's almost certainly got undiagnosed learning difficulties which is apparent pretty fast when you meet her. Didn't stop the JK team calling her incessantly and telling her she'd get the chance to "tell her side", "speak her truth" once she'd said no. Absolutely appalling behaviour and it is on everyone who worked on the show - they all knew what they were doing.

Yes, I've known people with diagnosed learning disability who've wanted to go on the show because they've thought that's what you do when you need to find out if someone is telling the truth. And that it's how you find out who the father of a baby is. And what you describe is horrendous - that they'd do this to clearly suggestible people.

StellaAndCrow · 14/03/2022 00:19

@Bluelillies

My old babysitter went on the show He came from a neglectful background with an abusive mother and an absent father He ended up on the show as they didn’t know who the father of his ex girlfriends baby was-him or his brother who had been shagging her behind his back It was bear bating at best-it ripped the brothers apart-they had been really close and he’d forgiven his brother (blood thicker than water I guess) and they where all bloody vulnerable young kids at best Turned out baby was neither brothers but some bloke she’d met Going on the show ripped the family apart-baby was taken away in the end by ss and there was zero aftercare for them He tried to kill himself and that’s when I lost touch with him but my daughter saw him in the street and he said he was moving away-I hope he did and has got help and is living the best life he can I wish him all the best-he really didn’t have the best start in life and going on that show really ruined a lot of lives-the aftershocks where felt by a lot of people in that family

A mate of mine was interviewing for a job and had a lad come in with his cv
He’d put that he’d been on the show and got a £20 voucher or something
He didn’t get the job

That's awful, people were treated terribly. And some people genuinely thought that going on Jeremy Kyle was what you needed to do to find out who a baby's father was, like it was the standard thing to do. I guess because it's where they'd heard about it.

EeeICouldRipATissue · 14/03/2022 00:25

So, a reporter from the DAILY MAIL is condemning the Jeremy Kyle show. I’ve seen everything now.

That's laughable if so.
The DM's one of the worst culprits for hounding people in the celebrity world/public eye.
Usually under the guise of relentless opinion pieces on them

MediocrityIsUnderrated · 14/03/2022 00:27

I saw him out and about before this all broke out, during my lunch hour, near his tv studio. He looked me up and down with a contemptuous sneer on his face. I remember thinking you mightn't think much of me but I think even less of you. He's a pretty unpleasant character and that show was dreadful.

oakleaffy · 14/03/2022 00:31

Jeremy Vile.
He used and exploited really vulnerable people as modern~day ''Bear baiting''.
What a complete Arse.

He hid behind Bodyguards and was highly manipulative.
Deeply unpleasant little man.

oakleaffy · 14/03/2022 00:38

Format:
Kyle: Who is the father of your baby?
Girl :I'm 99.999% sure it's my Boyfriend's baby.

Boyfriend :''I love that baby like she's my own, I really hope she's mine''

Kyle after DNA test:

You are NOT THE BABY'S Father!!!!
Kyle turns to mother ''Who IS the baby's father? Have you any idea?''

{Boyfriend breaks down, mother runs off weeping}

Rinse and repeat.

Noglassjustthebottleandastraw · 14/03/2022 00:41

I've never liked the show just total exploitation of vulnerable people. Everyone involved is to blame but JK was the face of it and was happy to be so. The way he talked to people was nothing short of disgusting.

I remember a few months ago Peter Aundry was sticking up for JK on Twitter. Wonder what he's saying now?

avamiah · 14/03/2022 00:50

I’ve seen bits of the show as my mum used to watch it but i always thought it was set up to be honest a bit like the Jerry Springer show back in the day .

SpidersAreShitheads · 14/03/2022 00:51

@SD1978

The entire show was the issue. Blaming him solely as the front man, is pathetic. They production team and the channel itself needs to be held accountable. It was poverty porn for the masses and the stupid. I don't for one minute believe that those who went on it didn't know what they were signing up for- the UK's version of Jerry Springer. It was an opportunity for 5 minutes of fame. To claim afterward you didn't know how the show worked....everyone did. The whole production team should be held accountable, not one man alone. He was vile, yes, and should be accountable, yes, but not alone.

^This in a nutshell. Agree entirely @SD1978.

People on this thread saying they didn't ever watch it, fair enough, neither did I. I don't like any of the reality TV shows of any description and never have. If you've never watched it, never condoned it or never thought it was OK then it's absolutely fair enough for you to criticise.

But the thing is, there were a LOT of people in the public who thought the JK show was perfectly fine. Lots of people watched it and lots of people enjoyed it. And now those same people are feigning outrage. Along with the people that were perfectly happy to work on it and collect a wage. Utter hypocrisy.

And in fairness, it wasn't a unique format - there were a lot of the "big reveal, shouty, pointy finger" type shows, which were all in the Jerry Springer style. They were all pretty cringe and awful - but JK wasn't the inventor of this.

I have no idea why JK has been made into a scapegoat. Lots of other people had the same types of show. And lots of people worked behind the scenes, he was just the person who fronted it. I don't see people pulling down Jerry Springer, or even Oprah - because her shows weren't much different either.

And there may well be the odd example of people who appeared who didn't know what it was going to be like, but the vast majority just wanted to be on the TV. The media has always taken advantage of people for the purpose of "entertainment", and I don't think this show was any different. Another example, Love Island - what they do to contestants is fucking awful. It's a horrible, horrible concept. But people know exactly what they're signing up for - and it's their choice.

As I say, I'm not defending my own tastes because I can't cope with watching stuff like this, I find the awkwardness of it all unbearable (I'm autistic and it's just too much for me). But I also deeply dislike all the people acting virtuously now, when they're either a) the people that helped to make the show or b) watched it every bloody week.

avamiah · 14/03/2022 00:57

@Noglassjustthebottleandastraw

I've never liked the show just total exploitation of vulnerable people. Everyone involved is to blame but JK was the face of it and was happy to be so. The way he talked to people was nothing short of disgusting.

I remember a few months ago Peter Aundry was sticking up for JK on Twitter. Wonder what he's saying now?

Yes, he would talk to the people on the show as if they were stupid and made them look like idiots and he always had ridiculously big security guards near him and that’s why I thought it was a set up and the people there were being paid to be there .

Firefly1987 · 14/03/2022 00:59

@SpidersAreShitheads I don't think anyone was as horrible as JK, Springer wasn't nasty to guests and didn't shout in their faces and tell them they are a disgrace. Kyle is thoroughly unlikeable and I did realise how bad the show was a few years after it started (whether I just matured or the show got worse as time went on) but other people think he's a nice guy they can't see through him just because he was good with kids and they focus on all the good he did.

I always thought how is this show still on tv but you trust they have safeguards in place to protect guests. It's only since the show got cancelled it's all come out how things were so manipulated and a lot of guests really didn't know what they were in for and didn't get the support they needed.

Firefly1987 · 14/03/2022 01:02

So is Jeremy unemployed now then? Really hated how he shouted "get a job" at people whilst he was in a very cushy extremely well paid job. I sincerely hope he's not unemployed and is stacking shelves somewhere, or is it only do as I say not as I do?

Bromse · 14/03/2022 01:05

I saw it too, quite an eye opener. I was never a JK fan, only saw some of his programme which made me feel like a voyeur, however I know he was addicted to gambling which caused the break up of his first marriage.

I've seen him interviewed since his show was axed and he was quite different: relaxed, pleasant and funny. Probably because there's no longer pressure to perform. It is said every cloud has a silver lining.

JK has remarried, so far happily, has plenty of money and will find something else to do, hopefully more wholesome.

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/03/2022 01:17

Didn't he Mary his DC's nanny ?
I bet he'd have said a lot to someone else who had done that

avamiah · 14/03/2022 01:26

@Redshoeblueshoe

Didn't he Mary his DC's nanny ? I bet he'd have said a lot to someone else who had done that

Hahahaha I think you could be Right on that as I’m sure I read something about him and his nanny.🤭

But I could be wrong

HollowedOut · 14/03/2022 01:28

I was in the audience once. I was booked on a Coronation Street tour with my aunt as she was a massive fan, the tours were running late so they said we could sit in the JK audience if we wanted. We went in and the two seats next to me at the end of the row were empty, just before a particular segment started a member of staff accompanying an ex partner of a guest came and sat in the seats. The staff member was furiously whispering to the guest throughout the segment and started encouraging her to stand up and say something. The ex partner did, shouted at her ex for cheating on her current partner with her, everyone gasped and laughed, woman sat near me started sobbing and swearing to the point the staff member escorted her out. It was so surreal.

I’d never even watched it before we were in the audience. I’d assumed it was a GMTV type show and I was amazed that it was being shown on one of the main channels.