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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Who is BU? Me or DH?

75 replies

TheLionSleeepsTonight · 10/03/2022 20:10

There’s a really big back story here that I won’t get into, because I just want some support with this isolated situation.

DH and I had a disagreement last night. It sounds ridiculous and really it is. So he was at the sink washing dishes and I needed a utensil that he had. He said he’d wash it and give it to me as soon as he’d rinsed it off. A minute later, he went to the bathroom and I popped my head out the kitchen and asked if it had been rinsed off yet (was sitting next to the sink). He said “I’m just blowing my nose, wait and I’ll sort it in a minute.” Thinking I might as well just go and sort it myself, I said “awww it’s okay, you’ll still need to wash your hands”. Then went to the kitchen. DH was really cross with this instantly. I shouldn’t be telling him when he needs to wash his hands. I explained that’s not what I meant, I just meant that he’ll be a minute so I’ll just go and clean it myself. Apparently the way I treat him is not okay. Im slightly OCD and hand washing is a big one for me. So I have from time to time checked he’s washed his hands if he’s making me food. I know that’s wrong of me and I’m improving and still working on that. He was getting more and more upset so I kept explaining that I didn’t mean it in the way he thought i did. This didnt appease him so i said let’s just drop it. He said “no I won’t just drop it thanks!” And continued going on as I took DD(8) upstairs.

Then DH came up and I found DD upset in her bedroom telling me she doesn’t like us arguing. I consoled her and then asked DH to come up and talk to her. He said he was too upset to. I explained that his 8 year old daughter’s feelings were priority.

I chatted to DD in front of DH and then left them to chat. DD came out the room saying daddy said he was too upset to talk to her about it. He then came and found her 15mins later and had a chat to her.

I’ve just found out that during that chat, she said “daddy, you look like you’re about to cry.” He said “I’m just so upset with your mum right now.”

I’m really upset by this. In my opinion, this is totally the wrong thing to say to her. She’s only 8 fgs and was upset herself already. It’s not fair to put that on her.

I’ve told DH how I feel about what he said and he thinks this shows that I don’t care about his feelings!

I’m literally so confused here. I don’t know what I’ve done that is so bad that I deserve this backlash. What was so bad that he felt he was so upset with me and needed to share that with our daughter. He says that arguments happen occasionally and that DD needs to understand that. I told him I’m not okay with that. We should be able to have disagreements without arguing in front of the kids. im just so confused! maybe im the problem here. help!

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vampirewellness · 10/03/2022 22:05

@IgiveupallthenamesIwantedareg0

OP: you should see our kitchen drawers - we have many of EVERY utensils - it comes from of us both loving to cook, my FIL being a profi chef etc. Just open your drawer and pull out something else!

I haven't rtft but I definitely thought this.

Just pick a different utensil! Do you only have 1 spoon?

TempName01 · 10/03/2022 22:08

Your DH was being a knob but I don’t think it’s a big deal that an 8 year old hears parents having a minor disagreement from time to time, it’s part of normal family life!

vampirewellness · 10/03/2022 22:13

Ok, I'm going to be the dickhead. Hard hat is on.

I have aspergers, DH has ADHD. We obviously piss each other off.

OP, perhaps you could have had non-sparkling water? Or had sparkling water after DH had washed the thingy?

In our household you must pick your battles. We're both ND people with peculiarities. Your DH sounds stressed if your DD is noticing it and your DH is responding to her as a person he can speak to.

Have still water if you're super thirsty. I get it, I'm sometimes triggered to the point of itchy at things ( I appreciate that aspergers and OCD are not the same ) but we must sometimes try to see reason.

I mean that all kindly.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/03/2022 23:19

Very few posters picking up on gaslighting behaviour of the OP's partner and also emotional manipulation of the daughter

Absolutely

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/03/2022 23:22

@CheekyHobson I’m sorry to hear that, but I could read the experience and wisdom between the lines.

@FairyCakeWings @ButtockUp you’re missing the very key information that the OP knew her husband would have got annoyed with her for rinsing the bottle herself so that she could get her own drink. She was having to dance around his temper.

CarlCarlson · 10/03/2022 23:24

You.

You’ve pestered him about hand washing - patronising at best, making it seem like he’s unclean at worst.

And then expected him to suck it up/forget about it (‘drop it’) and not be upset when that understandably hurt him

autienotnaughty · 11/03/2022 05:11

I think he was being unreasonable.
OCD is a mental health issue, it's not an attack on him. Checking he's washed his hands every now and then requires a one word answer - yes or no! Well done for working on your ocd to make it more manageable.
Why would he go blow his nose first? Surely he would have time to quickly wash something?
He was busy so you went to wash it. You said about the hand washing because that's what you do after blowing your nose.

His reaction was totally over the top and upsetting for your dc was he trying to get sympathy from an 8 year old!
YANBU

DropYourSword · 11/03/2022 05:16

He's being an absolute idiot. You needed something. He could have chosen to clean it and give it to you immediately, or he could have let you just do it while he went to the loo. Instead he's being weirdly controlling not letting you get what you need and then absolutely blowing it up to be way more than it needed to be.
I also don't understand the voting here at all. He's been totally unreasonable and I can't see why everyone doesn't see that!

AlisonDonut · 11/03/2022 05:42

I think if he won't wash the bottle, and would get upset if you washed the bottle whilst he is dithering then you have deeper issues than the water bottle.

Also, in terms of washing up, glasses and bottles should be first.

I guess he just had to punish you somehow and this was his opportunity.

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whumpthereitis · 11/03/2022 06:09

While you can’t help your OCD, that doesn’t negate the fact that it can be extremely difficult, and distressing, for the people around you to deal with. I can understand why he didn’t believe it was a joke, given the history here.

Shesmyperson · 11/03/2022 06:10

I think this sounds incredibly toxic all round.

He could have just washed the bottle next. If you were so thirsty you could have got plain water and got fizzy after if he was making his way to it of He would have moaned if you had washed it yourself he would have been a dick.

I suspect you are minimising the impact your ocd has. Sounds like everyone is on edge and just getting to breaking point. But why you are all on edge is anyone's guess.

Could be him, could be you. But you are in this cycle now.

I don't think you were wrong in trying to force him to speak to dd. Whilst I do believe that children should prioritised, some times, right that second isn't the time to talk something out.

So he talked to her like you made him do them arent happy with what he said. Though i dont think theres an issue with children knowing that sometimes adults arenr happy with eachother.

He seems very upset over something small. Could be a dick. Could be at breaking point. You could be waking up to his dickish, behaviour. Or you could often exhibiting low level controlling behaviour and its getting him down.

Truth is, non of us know.

Gollumy · 11/03/2022 06:10

If I understand correctly you weren't actually telling him to wash his hands. You were saying that by the time he washes his hands you could just get the utensil yourself. Is this right op? But he did t believe it and made it about you telling him what to do.

If I understand correctly I feel your frustration. i think he is bu. I also hate it when someone insists on continuing arguing after you've asked them to drop it.

Most arguments are about silly things. Triggered by silly things. I think you can only ask him what got his goat so much when he is calm again but I fit think his behaviour was off

It's ok to say I'm upset with your mum. That was just the truth and people do get upset with each other and there's nothing wrong with that.. Hopefully DD will see you have a talk about it lsgrd and resolve the upset.

Justleaveitblankthen · 11/03/2022 06:45

I may be wrong, but I didn't think you could be slightly OCD

FairyCakeWings · 11/03/2022 07:49

@FairyCakeWings @ButtockUp you’re missing the very key information that the OP knew her husband would have got annoyed with her for rinsing the bottle herself so that she could get her own drink. She was having to dance around his temper.

No she didn’t. He was doing the washing up, she wanted something that was in the washing up pile and he said he’d do it for her. He was not in a temper at that point.

Of course he would have found it irritating if she had started trying to wash something up when he was in the middle of doing it, any one would.

He had to blow his nose, she made a comment about hand washing which is obviously a trigger because of the back story that she wants to minimise, and then he over reacted. We don’t know why he over reacted, but clearly the back story is relevant.

toomuchlaundry · 11/03/2022 09:25

Did you miss the bit where the OP says he always flies off the handle with her @FairyCakeWings

PattyMelt · 11/03/2022 09:46

He's manipulating both you and your Dd. Making it all about him.

Snog · 11/03/2022 11:49

There is an undue amount of drama here from both sides so it matters if there is a previous pattern of such drama between the two of you and what that looks like.

LizzoBennett · 11/03/2022 11:58

You sound quite controlling, I think your DH has reached his limit with your behaviour. The icing on the cakewas probably 'telling' him to go upstairs and console your DD and then telling him he did it wrong. He was OTT, but the way you 'managed' the whole situation was not great...

RightOnTheEdge · 11/03/2022 12:02

I think he's obviously a dick if you couldn't wash the bottle yourself because he would have had a go at you for being impatient and if you avoid talking to him about things because he flies off the handle.
That sounds awful to live with.

He also should not have said that to your daughter it was a bit pathetic.
I do think that you made an unnecessary drama about making him talk to your daughter though. You should have just reasurred her that everything was fine and parents sometimes fall out like kids do and not to worry about it, without the big fuss.

AryaStarkWolf · 11/03/2022 12:10

Both of you were BU. You shouldn't have forced him to speak to your DD when he told you he wasn't ready to yet and he shouldn't have said that to her

SamphiretheStickerist · 11/03/2022 12:15

See, in a normal house, one where no adult is trying to be a twat, one adult would say "could I have that botle please?" and the other would say"Hold on a moment, I'll just rinse it through" and would then rinse it through and hand it over.

There would be no waiting, no going to the loo making the wait even lomger, no objecting to the thirsty adult washing said bottle themselves, no moaning, no dragging children into it, no gaslighting, no childish twattery like "I could cry". Just an every day adult exchange.

Anyone who thinks otherwise must have a REALLY weird home life!

Anyone who thinks an adult is 'controlling' because they want a water bottle and are not prepared to wait for another adult to wash up other stuff, nip off for a wee, wash / not wash their hands and object to the bottle being washed when they get back to the kitchen sink needs to think that through again.

Seriously... start at step 1:
Question: Could I have that soda stream bottle please dear?
Answer: You controlling bitch, I could cry!

Postitmug · 11/03/2022 13:21

@SamphiretheStickerist

See, in a normal house, one where no adult is trying to be a twat, one adult would say "could I have that botle please?" and the other would say"Hold on a moment, I'll just rinse it through" and would then rinse it through and hand it over.

There would be no waiting, no going to the loo making the wait even lomger, no objecting to the thirsty adult washing said bottle themselves, no moaning, no dragging children into it, no gaslighting, no childish twattery like "I could cry". Just an every day adult exchange.

Anyone who thinks otherwise must have a REALLY weird home life!

Anyone who thinks an adult is 'controlling' because they want a water bottle and are not prepared to wait for another adult to wash up other stuff, nip off for a wee, wash / not wash their hands and object to the bottle being washed when they get back to the kitchen sink needs to think that through again.

Seriously... start at step 1:
Question: Could I have that soda stream bottle please dear?
Answer: You controlling bitch, I could cry!

All of this!
CheekyHobson · 11/03/2022 21:03

100 percent @SamphiretheStickerist

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