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Tone deaf Chelsea supporters

56 replies

Finallylostit · 10/03/2022 18:15

Seriously how can the supporters club actually put their spokesperson on national TV, to say the fans are innocent in this and should be allowed to enjoy the football.

Sure the innocent Ukranians would love to enjoy a game of football but right now there are more important things going on that the right of a Chelsea fan to watch a bloody football match

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Noisyprat · 10/03/2022 20:17

On one had I don't give a flying f* about Chelsea FC because they have happily taken the money and worshipped Abramovich when we've always known his background and where the money has come from. The fans have not become collaterol 'in a war', fgs. If they are season ticket holders they can still watch football for everyone else I expect it'll be on TV. The morons on the radio seriously need to take a look at themselves, it's disgusting.

The premiere league is a business, pure and simple, I doubt there is one player at Chelsea with true allegiance to the club, it's history and what it stands for.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 10/03/2022 20:37

@QuebecBagnet

Why on Earth are the team flying from London to Norwich this weekend and therefore saying a 20k limit isn’t enough? Surely they can hire a coach?
I thought the flight was in relation to the Lille match?

Eurotunnel is that way, chaps.

Smokeahontas · 10/03/2022 20:39

This moron.

Tone deaf Chelsea supporters
Clarabe1 · 10/03/2022 20:57

The point is @Noisyprat the FA and the British government should never have allowed the Oligarchs to invest their dirty money in premiership football. It’s ruined the game and it’s bloody immoral. I agree the fans need to get a sense of perspective. Football is hardly life and death. I think reading some of the comments from the fans they are not that bright.

Meandthesky · 10/03/2022 21:02

The fans are (mostly) innocent but missing a few football games is a minuscule price to pay compared to the millions of innocent Ukrainians who are being bombed, forced to flee their homes or forced to stay and fight.

The sanctions should’ve been implements at the beginning, not given the oligarchs time to prepare and move money out of the country.

ItsDisneyBitch · 10/03/2022 21:11

I think the only reason that my sister-in-law has even noticed that there is something else going on in the world other than herself, is that now she can’t Instagram the shit out of herself and her kids at Chelsea matches.

SpicyTool75 · 10/03/2022 21:13

“If we lost three players – like Cesar Azpilicueta, Antonio Rudiger and Andreas Christensen – on free transfers because we couldn’t offer new contracts because of what is going on in Ukraine, well, quite frankly, what is going on in Ukraine is on a different level.

Not the view of the CST

m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/chelsea-fans-would-accept-decade-in-trophy-wilderness-as-long-as-club-survives-41433087.html

Mayorquimby2 · 10/03/2022 21:20

@MissLC

To be fair, surely its Chelsea making it an issue for the fans? Isn't it just that they can't SELL tickets? They could take it in the chin, do a ballot for free tickets and get money from concession sales?
They've had restrictions on how much they can spend to put on matches regarding stewarding, policing and safety officers etc. So don't think they could increase the capacity when it would cost them extra to do so.

There's also a danger of going in to administration so I don't think they can in good conscience proactively take steps which will lose the club money

CarpyDiem · 10/03/2022 22:30

Beeb 10 o'clock news has fans saying that disruption to their club is drop on ocean compared to what's happening in Ukraine. So not all fans are twats, and not all channels are going with the knuckle-draggers

EsmaCannonball · 10/03/2022 23:09

I just hope that if something good can possibly come from this war it's that there's a complete ethical reckoning for governments, organisations and individuals who have benefited from their association with human-rights abusing gangsters. We need a complete reset.

mummykel16 · 10/03/2022 23:11

@EsmaCannonball

I just hope that if something good can possibly come from this war it's that there's a complete ethical reckoning for governments, organisations and individuals who have benefited from their association with human-rights abusing gangsters. We need a complete reset.
A great one?
Nat94 · 10/03/2022 23:43

Chelsea fans being concerned about the future of their club? Hardly a shock is it. None of them were saying that football is more important or that they agree with what is happening in Ukraine.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 10/03/2022 23:59

@mummykel16

It's football these are the same sad acts that would miss the birth of a child for a match, what do you expect
What a ridiculous generalisation
sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 11/03/2022 00:09

Lie down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas. Chelsea have bought every trophy they've won in the last 20yrs. John Terry's donning of a kit for a match he was banned from playing in says it all really, not to mention his 'I didn't call you a fucking black cunt' or Ashley Cole's #bunchoftwats tweet.

Chelsea fans singing Abramovich's name during a minutes silence for Ukraine. How many of them know or care how their owner got his money?

RobertaFirmino · 11/03/2022 02:03

@Nat94

Chelsea fans being concerned about the future of their club? Hardly a shock is it. None of them were saying that football is more important or that they agree with what is happening in Ukraine.
Exactly. Whilst I agree that the Abramovich chants were in poor taste, you cannot tar all Chelsea supporters with the same brush.

My sympathies lie with staff at the club who will probably lose their jobs. Those at the ticket office and the merchandise shops. Football haters can gloat all they want but people are still getting laid off through no fault of their own. Not the high earners at the club but those on a piddly little wage. I wish them the best of luck in finding a new job.

melj1213 · 11/03/2022 12:31

@MissLC

To be fair, surely its Chelsea making it an issue for the fans? Isn't it just that they can't SELL tickets? They could take it in the chin, do a ballot for free tickets and get money from concession sales?
That's not how it works - they cannot sell tickets so they can't get revenue from the tickets to provide the match day services for people to attend. They also can't use any money they receive as the accouts are frozen - they might get a few quid from selling food on match days but that money then can't be accessed and they won't be able to sell enough pies to cover the wage bill ...

Giving away tickets would still require money to be paid on administration costs, stewarding and match day security etc and with a cap put on what they can spend on match days they cannot afford to do this.

Basically Chrlsea are allowed to continue playing and paying staff but only until their existing money runs out ... at which point the team may effectively go into administration, which will cause massive issues with them completing their CL/FA Cup/PL fixtures and putting all competitions in chaos

It is nowhere near as important as the war in the Ukraine and the impact on all the people affected by the Russian invasion but it is going to have a huge impact and have wide reaching effects on a lot of people, who are rightly concerned about their club and in some cases their jobs.

One of my friends works at CFC and while she has been reassured that she will not lose her job, there's no guarantee she will continue being paid or that her job will continue being tenable beyond the immediate future, but with the ever increasing bills needing to be paid and children to keep fed, clothed and housed she has started looking for another job. It's not just the megastars the club has to consider, it's the low paid back room, admin, merchandise and match day staff that are now thrown into limbo

melj1213 · 11/03/2022 13:12

@QuebecBagnet

Why on Earth are the team flying from London to Norwich this weekend and therefore saying a 20k limit isn’t enough? Surely they can hire a coach?
The £20k limit is for all the expenses for the away fixtures.

That has to cover all travel (to/from the home airport; plane tickets; travel to and from the away airport; and travel to and from the hotel to the stadium on match day), all hotels for players, coaching staff, medical team etc, security, meals ...

Even if they stayed at a local travelodge for £100 a night you're easily looking at about £4k for a basic hotel for one night for the staff. Then security, meals, admin etc on top, add on the coach hire, and actual travel tickets (plane tickets might easily be cheaper than the train and logistically better in certain cases) and £20k is more than easily spent.

balalake · 11/03/2022 14:03

@melj1213 well put about the CFC staff. If a club goes into administration the players wages are the last to suffer, even at smaller clubs.

StoneofDestiny · 11/03/2022 14:16

I thought the fact they were chanting Abramovich's name during the minute applause at the weekend was beyond contempt

Yes, sickening.

TheWhalrus · 11/03/2022 14:25

I have to say i'm not very surprised: Chelsea fans don't have the best of reputations, for example, these are the people who decided to push a black man off the Paris metro, basically for being black. This is despite the team containing several black players at that time.

I personally will not feel sad if Chelsea run out of money and lose all of their star players. This said, one shouldn't tar them all with the same brush, i'm sure many of them are appalled by what's happening in Ukraine. And its sad for the people working for the club who aren't paid mega bucks etc (ie the people serving the food, selling the tickets etc, they don't deserve this).

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/03/2022 14:26

Does this affect their outreach/youth programmes?

That'll affect kids from deprived backgrounds who have absolutely no responsibility/involvement - they'd just know that the things that made such a difference to their lives have been cancelled, for example.

Or are they run, owned and funded completely independently of Chelsea FC?

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 11/03/2022 14:27

Were/are some Chelsea fans being tone deaf? Sure, but the way the government are handling the situation is questionable at best.

As far as I'm aware it is not an offense in the UK to be, or have been, friends with despots. If it is then more than a few of our own politicians and business owners should be preparing for their assesses to be frozen or making for the hills.

Abramovic hasn't made his fortune in the last 16 days, there have been great big question marks over how he accumulated his wealth for decades. Questions conveniently ignored up until last week.

It's more than a little concerning that this government, a government facing accusations of corruption itself (covid contracts) and with clear ties to other Russian oligarchs, can essential put a British company, employing hundreds of people out of business, because they don't like the company the owner keeps/kept.

I can only hope that the government's new found respect and desire for ensuring transparency in financial matters will extend to themselves and their mates going forward....lol.

melj1213 · 11/03/2022 14:42

Does this affect their outreach/youth programmes?

I would imagine so - if it is an in house programme run by the club then it will be funded entirely from the club accounts, and they have effectively been frozen. The outreach/youth workers will hopefully still be being paid as CFC employees but I doubt they will be able to continue with programs they're running if they have no funding.

Finallylostit · 11/03/2022 14:45

As far as I m aware the British Government has not bombed a maternity hospital, care home, schools in the last 6 weeks - but don't let that stop you from deflecting the issue of this thread - which is some tone deaf Chelsea supporters going on national TV bemoaning there innocence and it not being fair that they can not watch Chelski play football.

Not all fans but when you go on National TV as a representative of the supporters club then saying asinine comments as has happened in the last 10 days will quite rightly bring condemnation of your stupidity and ignorance of what really matters.

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MiddleParking · 11/03/2022 14:52

You support the actions of the govt - end of story

OP, can you clarify what you mean by this? Do you mean that people should support the actions of the British government, end of story? Or that you’re wrong if you support the actions of the British government?

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