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To ask how many of these you will do to stop global warming?

297 replies

LadyinRead · 07/03/2022 20:38

Apparently if all indivisuals do these six things, we'll be 25% of the way to stopping global warming.
Are we doomed, then? I do most of these but (3) is impossible as appliances aren't built to last that long, and (4) would probably mean never seeing my parents again.

  1. Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste
  1. Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year. (Unlimited second-hand clothing allowed.)
  1. Keep electrical products for at least seven years
  1. Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years
  1. Get rid of personal motor vehicles
  1. Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier

www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/07/six-key-lifestyle-changes-can-help-avert-the-climate-crisis-study-finds?fbclid=IwAR2llmcsBWVwzzdF0kzuW2tVPAnUbrMUn2hatbfIsrUQ1Awi1EI5XSe1lF0

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BlackberrySky · 08/03/2022 07:37

Did the study issue a corresponding proposal for the massive job losses and revenue streams following the simultaneous collapse of worldwide automotive, aviation, tourism and clothing industries?

Stuffin · 08/03/2022 07:37

No to all

purplesequins · 08/03/2022 07:41

apart from 2 we already do it.

in addition we had our house insulated to the highest possible standard and are looking at alternative heating as our gas boiler is not suitable for hydrogen.
solar panels on the balcony to charge phones.

looking up the most energy efficient cooking methods. use eco settings of appliances.

kittensinthekitchen · 08/03/2022 07:42
  1. Probably not
  2. I buy new clothes when I need/want to, which isn't very often tbh.
  3. I only replace when broken/unable to be fixed.
  4. Rarely fly
  5. Nope
  6. I don't own my home, so have no control over the building changes. I dont have a pension.
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 08/03/2022 07:47
  1. Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste

No, my dodgy digestive system wouldn't cope

  1. Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year. (Unlimited second-hand clothing allowed.)

I presume you're not including underwear in that?

  1. Keep electrical products for at least seven years

Things rarely last that long and tech will be well and truly out of date (and possibly unsupported) by then

  1. Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years

No, I have various holidays planned, 2 that I have to take or lose money. Im not sure after that

  1. Get rid of personal motor vehicles

Definitely not. My commute to work is 15-20 minutes by car or over and hour on public transport

  1. Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier

Have you seen the price of energy?! Im going for the cheapest and I have no idea how green it is. My home can't be insulated any more than it is and my pension is through work so I don't get any say in provider. Even if I did I'm afraid I'd be looking for the best options for my retirement.

Sanada · 08/03/2022 07:47
  1. Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste

Nope sorry, not cutting out meat and other animal products. I happily eat healthy portions and try to minimise food waste as much as possible.

  1. Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year. (Unlimited second-hand clothing allowed.)

I'm happy to do that, I already wear the clothes that I have til they fall apart or don't fit anymore. Only problem is trying to get plus size secondhand stuff can be difficult at times.

  1. Keep electrical products for at least seven years

I generally keep any electric appliance until its broken/not working (and unrepairable). The only issue I can see is around the area of tech, where stuff becomes obsolete after a period of time, this is something that I'd love tech companies to focus on more.

  1. Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years

We rarely fly, the last flight I took was in 2015 I think? From Ireland to the UK

  1. Get rid of personal motor vehicles

Don't own a car.

  1. Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier

I'll happily look into that.

Narutocrazyfox · 08/03/2022 07:51

It's impossible for most people in the UK to live without a car. The buses are expensive and unreliable, with buses from where I am only running once an hour from 8am. I start work at 7am. To walk to work would take 2 hours(!) and there are no other alternatives such as trains (I wouldn't pay for a train now out of principle. The cost is completely disproportionate to the service). That's even without factoring in how to get shopping/pick up and drop off children etc. The public transport in this country is a joke. There'd need to be major investment before most people could even consider it an option.

itsallbeyondshit · 08/03/2022 07:52
  1. I'd be happy to do this but I wouldn't be able to do a full plant based diet I don't think, I'd be happy to try plant based during the week though.
  1. I'd love to do this, currently minimising and decluttering and once I get my wardrobe where I want it, I plan on not buying much at all
  1. Already do this unless something breaks

4.I love travel so I don't think I'd be able to do this

  1. I don't have a car as I live in London, but I am soon to be taking my nans old car that she doesn't use anymore. I think if the government want this to happen, they need to work on making public transport better and cheaper.
  1. I could do this
User9805637 · 08/03/2022 07:57

Why three items of clothing, why not four or two, does this include DC, could be difficult for school uniforms. If most people are doing this anyway, who is buying all the clothes.

FatOaf · 08/03/2022 08:09

could be difficult for school uniforms.

School uniforms are a major contributor to waste. One of the many arguments against them.

If most people are doing this anyway, who is buying all the clothes.

Most people aren't doing it anyway. Posters on Mumsnet are not a representative sample of the population.

User9805637 · 08/03/2022 08:13

Surely Mumsnet is representative 😂😂

FrangipaniBlue · 08/03/2022 08:13

1, 3, 4 & 6 are all fairly easy to do.

Already do healthy portions and no waste. We do eat meat but not a lot and we try to buy things like eggs and milk locally.

I've never had a major electrical appliance that DIDN'T last 7 years ? Been in our house 22 years and in that time we've only had 2 hoovers, 2 ovens, 2 washers, 2 TVs and 1 tumble dryer.

In the 41 years of my life I've only flown long haul 3 times and short haul 5 times.

We've done things like reusable nappies for DS when he was a baby, reusable Sanpro, walk or cycle for short journeys, house is well insulated, glass milk bottles, paper or reusable shopping bags etc etc

2 & 6 would be the hardest for us and mainly that's due to our hobbies!

I try to buy anything that I would only wear once (eg an outfit for a wedding) second hand. Same with bits of DS uniform. But I do triathlon and go through quite a few pairs of running shoes and clothing - I couldn't buy these second hand.

Ditto my van. I need it for putting my bike and all my kit in to get to events. DS also mountain bikes, so again I need the van to transport him and his bike to and from venues.

One of the reasons I do rarely fly (over half the occasions I have flown were for work) is that we holiday in the UK. We camp. I couldn't do that without a vehicle.

I don't actually think it's possible to completely 100% do all 6 of those things and still have som enjoyment from life.

I think there has to be a sensible balance.

cheapskatemum · 08/03/2022 08:27

4 was the first one that made me think, "Ooh, harsh", but now I've given it consideration, I know I could do it. 5 would be impossible. I live in a remote rural area and work as a mobile support worker. Early shifts can start at 7am and late shifts can finish at 11pm, some are 50 & 60 miles away. I definitely need my car, which is fully electric. Interesting that they're both about travel.

Fizbosshoes · 08/03/2022 08:36

We don't waste food, and have cut down on meat but we're nowhere near plant based.
I very rarely buy new clothes and do buy a lot 2nd hand bit not sure I could limit to 3 items.
I've never had a laptop that lasted 7 years, and I do take them to be repaired if possible. Our last fridge was 3 years old when we got a new one but I'd already had it repaired twice. DC have 2nd hand phones and mine and DH are 3 or 4 years old. Most other electrical we tend to keep for quite a long time.
I haven't flown since 2014 and I've only ever done 2 long haul flights.
I am guilty of using the car when not 100% necessary and I need to address that, but not sure it would be practical to go without. DH was working on Sunday and kids were doing things in 2 different directions, although I did request DD walked back from her activity.

Friendshipqn · 08/03/2022 08:41
  1. Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste.

Yes very easy.

  1. Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year. (Unlimited second-hand clothing allowed.)

Easy for me! Not so for the dc, especially shoes.

  1. Keep electrical products for at least seven years

Super easy. Don’t care about electrical products. I keep them until they’re completely kaput.

  1. Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years.

I haven’t flown in 4 years but I want to, so this one makes me a bit sadder.

  1. Get rid of personal motor vehicles.

We don’t have a car (live in London), but I would actually like an electric one.

  1. Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier.

We live in a fairly greenish house right now I think... Not thought about changing pension supplier.

So all in all, the one I’d struggle mostly with is flying! Even though I really don’t go anywhere much. I just want to!

RussianSpy101 · 08/03/2022 08:44

I won’t ever do 1, 2, 4 or 5.
I like meat, we have at least 3 holidays abroad per year, sometimes more and we rely on 2 cars.
Electrical appliances- couldn’t really say how long we keep them I’m not sure.

RussianSpy101 · 08/03/2022 08:45

Oh I’ve just realised phones and iPads we replace more often than that actually.

CHIRIBAYA · 08/03/2022 08:51

To say a blanket 'no' to reducing food waste is to demonstrate the most sickening entitlement and disrespect for the millions of people who lack the luxury of wallowing in such pig headed ignorance. Those posters refusing to reduce their fast fashion consumption are effectively saying that what is going on in the Atacama desert, which is dumping ground for fast fashion clothing, is fine. If that's the case let's dump it in your back yard instead. & this thread is not guilt tripping, it's about being a grown up and taking responsibility for your choices.

notacooldad · 08/03/2022 08:51

Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste.
Yrs. I've been veggie for 30 years with more leaning gs to home made plant based foods. I dont use substitutes such quorn or fake meat products.

  1. Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year. (Unlimited second-hand clothing allowed.)
Well I've just bought a loads if new knickers and bras so that's a fail. I've also bought a new pair of Dic Marten vegan sandals. I do some charity shop clothes but I sont shop anywhere near like I did 5 years ago.
  1. Keep electrical products for at least seven years.
As long as they are working I keep them. The last electrical item I bought was an instant pot and that was 2nd hand. It's on now as I type!

Ive recently revived my ipods! No wifi needed so not using data is great
Love it with my bluetooth headphones in the gym.

  1. Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years
Well Ive not had a flight since March 2020! Not had long haul since 2017.
  1. Get rid of personal motor vehicles
No. I am an essential car user for work. I'd lose my job if i didnt have a car.
  1. Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier.
We had a green inspection on our home a couple of years ago. We are well insulated. We do need a pension review though.
GreenWhiteViolet · 08/03/2022 08:51

I'm a vegetarian, don't have a car, haven't flown in many years, and only buy new appliances when the old ones break. Couldn't do without the new clothes - but I do keep them until they're worn out. And I can't afford to make major changes to my home or energy supply.

etulosba · 08/03/2022 08:52

Already do 2, 3 (unless they break) and 6.

I will have to be forced to do the rest.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/03/2022 08:54

Do 4 of them now: my hairdryer is older than my adult daughter Grin

Working on the plant base (though fish and dairy, probably not), have bought clothes in charities for as long as I can remember, haven’t flown in over 18 years. Almost there with vehicle, though that’s been more wfh than a deliberate decision.

kittensinthekitchen · 08/03/2022 08:57

@CHIRIBAYA

To say a blanket 'no' to reducing food waste is to demonstrate the most sickening entitlement and disrespect for the millions of people who lack the luxury of wallowing in such pig headed ignorance. Those posters refusing to reduce their fast fashion consumption are effectively saying that what is going on in the Atacama desert, which is dumping ground for fast fashion clothing, is fine. If that's the case let's dump it in your back yard instead. & this thread is not guilt tripping, it's about being a grown up and taking responsibility for your choices.
Who said a blanket no to reducing food waste? I suspect most people rejecting no 1 is to do with a plant based diet, not reducing food waste 🙄
user1487194234 · 08/03/2022 08:57

None of them
If I Sam giving up my car and holidays I would give up work too

fuzzyduck1 · 08/03/2022 08:58
  1. Eat a largely plant-based diet, with healthy portions and no waste
Yeah don’t eat that much meat. Also grab the stuff that is going out of date so it’s not wasted
  1. Buy no more than three new items of clothing per year. (Unlimited second-hand clothing allowed.)
Hard to find second hand cloths in my size but do wear them to death
  1. Keep electrical products for at least seven years
Yep or until they can’t be fixed anymore
  1. Take no more than one short haul flight every three years and one long haul flight every eight years
Haven’t flown for 2 years but will do again soon. so a big NO to that one
  1. Get rid of personal motor vehicles
No but don’t buy new ones.
  1. Make at least one life shift to nudge the system, like moving to a green energy, insulating your home or changing pension supplier
Lolololol we moved to Scottish power supposed to be green but they do pay other companies to run their dirty diesel generators so you can all make your cup of tea when you come home from work