To confront bus pusher in?

[EzzieB]

There's not much of a queue at my city centre bus stop at night but once the bus pulls in, everyone forms a queue more or less. This one woman though seems to come out of nowhere and just brazenly walks past people queueing and puts herself right at the front. I want to say something to her. We all get a seat but it's the principle and lack of manners. Am I just being petty?

I used to confront the CF who used to do this when I was commuting on trains. I don't care if people think it's petty. If I've been patiently waiting, basic manners dictate you wait your turn too.

Unfortunately that's society for you though. People are selfish.

I feel people who do this wouldn't care if you confront them. They clearly see the queue and just choose to go first

OMG queue jumpers give me the absolute rage!! No one queues properly anymore!

YANBU - but I doubt anyone will back you up! They will probably just tut at her

I'd still have to say something, petty or not it's rude behaviour

Wrong, just wrong. Get her told!!

I'd be tempted to say something. It isn't how we normally work here in the UK.

I wonder if she is from a country or culture where queuing isn't the thing that it is here, so possibly doesn't realise it is wrong to just go straight to the front and for whatever reason hasn't worked it out?

I've certainly been to some countries where queuing isn't necessarily expected and it is a bit of an adjustment to make. 🤣

Please come back and update when you confront her OP!

I'm just trying to understand what happens - you say the queue doesn't form until the bus pulls in, and then the woman puts herself at the head of the only-just-formed queue?

I'm not sure how queue order is determined if that happens - it isn't as though it's first-come/first served as in normal queuing practice.

So I think YABU - if you want a first come/first served queue you have to form one as people come along, otherwise it will be a free-for-all.

I would never confront a random person in public. I am too fearful of their reaction.

I'm not sure how queue order is determined if that happens - it isn't as though it's first-come/first served as in normal queuing practice

People know who arrived after them and who was already there when they arrived.

If you are going to do it, I’d make sure that you are polite “did you release that people are queueing/were here before you?”
And I’d make sure she doesn’t look too fierce to avoid the risk of a violent reaction.

Is there any chance that this person was actually there early but just chose to wait a little further away? I used to sit and wait when I arrived early for a bus (I was usually there before anyone else due to awkward timings); the queuers seemed to prefer to stand (only a few feet away - it was clear which bus we were all there for) so they always got on first. I usually just got on last as there was plently of room but I can imagine soneone else in my position claiming 'their' place when the bus arrived!

(And I often felt a bit disgruntled about it )

People know who arrived after them and who was already there when they arrived.

Do they? I wouldn't pay that much attention to random strangers at a bus stop - making a mental note of who arrived when. That's why we have queuing in the sense of people standing in the order in which they arrived. If everyone could simply remember the order in which others arrived, we wouldn't need the concept of standing in a line at all.

I'm just waiting for the "I'd smack her and tell her to fuck off" posters.

If everyone gets a seat I don't think I could be bothered to confront her and create a potentially risky situation.

Nothing wrong with saying - excuse but there is a queue you know.

Everyone else will inwardly cheer you on.

Just shout age before beauty and let her on!?

@ClariceQuiff

People know who arrived after them and who was already there when they arrived.

Do they? I wouldn't pay that much attention to random strangers at a bus stop - making a mental note of who arrived when. That's why we have queuing in the sense of people standing in the order in which they arrived. If everyone could simply remember the order in which others arrived, we wouldn't need the concept of standing in a line at all.

Apparently it's a thing. I learned this a few months ago from a thread about bus pushing in. There is an unspoken language and understanding apparently. It made me aware of the fact that the reason I always board the bus last is because I'm autistic and don't understand the silent language bus people don't speak

I take it you're not from Glasgow? The thought of someone pushing in to a bus queue, unchallenged, in Glasgow made me laugh out loud. Get her told!!

@MajorCarolDanvers

Nothing wrong with saying - excuse but there is a queue you know.

Everyone else will inwardly cheer you on.

But the OP has said there isn't a queue.

They only form a queue at the point the bus arrives, and this woman puts herself at the head of it. That isn't the same as pushing in front of an already-formed queue.

If the OP and her fellow passengers want proper queue etiquette to be observed by others, they need to observe it themselves by forming a proper queue.

If they can't be arsed to do that, fine, but they shouldn't expect other people to understand whatever unwritten rule they are applying to determine who boards the bus first.

@ClariceQuiff even if there isn't a queue formed as people arrive at the bus stop, people generally recognise who around them was there before them, after them etc and get into a general who was there first type queue. It's just a well known etiquette thing.

@TyrannosaurusRegina And I am saying not everyone can mentally retain the images of strangers like that - which is surely why the convention of standing in a line exists.

Dunno, it would also give me the rage, but my dh has made me think before I act-he says you don’t know the person, they might be crazy aggressive and could attack and god knows what they’re carrying. So whilst I’d definitely want to call them out, I’d be wary and probably would keep schtum.

Do people outside London still queue at bus stops then? How quaint!

Unless she was around the bus stop waiting for longer than everyone definitely say something.