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CF parking thread 🙄

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Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:28

Recently bought a house which came with parking on deeds. Was told by existing residents that there is a “gentleman’s agreement” between them that parking has been shuffled around and I should parking in x space (the space I park in is not registered to anyone) I’ve attached a diagram as it’s way too complicated to explain without!

So as you can see from diagram houses 1,2,6 and 7 now benefit from single parking spaces, whilst I get a tandem, closer to my house (fine, it’s more convenient in that sense).

When I bought the house I obtained a letter from house owner no2 protecting me from adverse possession upon request of solicitors.

House no3 has recently sold but is still in a relationship with house no7 🙄. They have allocated spaces of their own but previous owner of house no3 (the CF) is parking in my deed spot for hours and hours almost every day.

No2 are tenants and won’t say anything to him (I can’t blame them, I think he could be quite nasty) but it’s getting on my nerves especially as no7 and old no3 are the first to dictate proper parking.

Old no3 knows this is my deed space and I have asked him why he is parking there before. He said it was easier for him and would only be until he moved.
I always thought he started parking there so he could carry on when he moved and would be seen as normal by others... guess I was bang on.

Anyway, what would you do?

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mumofbun · 01/03/2022 10:36

I struggled to follow this a bit even with the diagram tbh. Are the people who are parking in your deed space with your permission complaining to you about the person who has sold parking there now?

Aprilx · 01/03/2022 10:36

I honestly cannot make head nor tail of that in particular:

what does having a letter about adverse possession mean?
why do number 2 need to say something to somebody (number 3) but can’t because they are tenants and what has that got to do with you anyway?
what has the romance between 3 and 7 got to do with it.

But that aside, it comes down to somebody parking in your spot. What I would do is start parking in my spot and tell the neighbours that I don’t care about their gentleman’s agreement.

JeffThePilot · 01/03/2022 10:37

I would reclaim my deed space and forget all the other faff.

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 01/03/2022 10:38

You park where your legal documents say you can.
Unless you actually are a gentleman.

Chely · 01/03/2022 10:39

Park in the spot you own, sod your neighbours and look forward to getting the stink eye every time you see them.

Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:39

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mumofbun · 01/03/2022 10:41

If you don't want to start a war then i'd do nothing. Otherwise i'd start parking in my own space.

Why can't he park in one of no 7s spaces?

SirChenjins · 01/03/2022 10:41

I’d be buying a lockable bollard and wouldn’t let him park there.

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Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:42

Because he is a CF. He use to live around the area and knows the arrangement. He has no reason not to park in her spaces at all.

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jeaux90 · 01/03/2022 10:42

Park in your deed space.

BulletTrain · 01/03/2022 10:43

It's number 2's problem. Unless you give 2 your unofficial spaces and make it your problem.

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Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:43

@SirChenjins

I’d be buying a lockable bollard and wouldn’t let him park there.

I thought about this! Then I would only give no2 the combination if they required the space for a visitor (they only have one car currently, I think he takes advantage of that)

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Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:45

@BulletTrain

It's number 2's problem. Unless you give 2 your unofficial spaces and make it your problem.

Would it still be the case if it’s my land? I was worried by letting him park there I would be effectively forfeiting my land to him

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BlondeWidow · 01/03/2022 10:46

BOLLARD!!!!!!!!!! 🐧

mugoftea456 · 01/03/2022 10:47

I dont understand. NO.3 is parking in official space 4 and unofficial space 2?

Is anyone parking in your unofficial space 4?

If you have agreed to the gentleman's agreement (which makes more sense for you all than the deeds, then what is the problem? it sounds like our tandem unofficial spaces are still free?

Or have a completely misunderstood?

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Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:49

@mugoftea456

I dont understand. NO.3 is parking in official space 4 and unofficial space 2?

Is anyone parking in your unofficial space 4?

If you have agreed to the gentleman's agreement (which makes more sense for you all than the deeds, then what is the problem? it sounds like our tandem unofficial spaces are still free?

Or have a completely misunderstood?

In simpler terms a visitor of no7 is parking on my land that only no2 has permission to use. I park in unofficial space 4.

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mugoftea456 · 01/03/2022 10:51

@Amaranth22

Right okay. I think I have it! thank you.

Honestly, it may be your official space, but it doesn't sound like it actually impacts your parking day to day? I would say nothing and leave it to No2 sort if they want to. It doesn't really sound like they have an issue with it as they only have one car anyway.

PutThatDownNow · 01/03/2022 10:52

I am finding it a bit difficult to follow.

But it sounds as though you are happy with the unofficial arrangement which is better for you. But also then also concerned about asserting your rights (not sure if kind of moral rights or legal given everyone is ignoring the legal spaces).

I think you need to choose which system you are going to use and stick to that. Under the unofficial arrangement surely only number 2 has a direct interest in those spaces. So it is kind of their problem.

I don't understand why he doesn't park in No 7's space though if he is visiting No 7. Has anyone spoken to No 7 about their visitor's parking?

(My first contribution to a parking thread. Not sure how wise this is...)

MordredsOrrery · 01/03/2022 10:52

Just all go back to parking where you're supposed to. Get bollards for your spaces.

Shamoo · 01/03/2022 10:52

I don’t really see why you care, you’ve accepted somebody else is parking there so what does it matter who it is provided you get the other spaces. He won’t get adverse possession, but if you are genuinely worried about that send him a letter asserting your rights to the space (recorded delivery). You only get AP if the other person hasn’t tried to assert their rights in that time.

Canigooutyet · 01/03/2022 10:53

Lockable bollard for your ow use.
Visitors can use the unused space.
Agreements don't need to carry on with new owners.
I don't get pushed around by neighbours/visitors. If I did I would have left here a long time ago when neighbours and their visitors were giving me shit because I moved in instead of the house going to one of their friends.

GordenBennett · 01/03/2022 10:56

Stop all this nonsense, it's ridiculous. Say no to everyone. It's nice to help but you are just allowing the water to muddy
Previous arrangements are nothing to do with you

AFingerofFudge · 01/03/2022 10:56

I'd just tell everyone you were going back to the deeds parking as some people can't stick to the (gentleman's)!agreement! How you choose to tell them is up to you- you could just park in your official space and tell people if they query it, or you could put a note round (rubbish idea actually) or directly approach people and tell them.
Anyhow, you're not a gentleman so you don't need to abide by someone else's agreement!

BluerThanRobinsEggs · 01/03/2022 10:58

Just use your deed space. Bollard the fucker if you have to. It's just not worth it otherwise.

I used to live in allocated parking hell- I had one deed spot but an agreement with a neighbour to use his for a second car. Over the road kept on parking in my deeded spot because someone else kept parking in their deed spot (and they didn't like their spot anyway because it was further away). They were unpleasant folk and then got an agreement with my neighbour that they could use his spot instead of me. Really should have just kept to our own spots and left it at that.

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Amaranth22 · 01/03/2022 10:59

I think it’s just the CF-ery of it all, especially as he knows the arrangement and still decided to do whatever he wants! I might go down the bollard route.

To be honest I am worried about adverse possession as he has form for it. I’ve just managed to get back part of my garden that he concreted over a few years ago!

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