To think if you've booked a seat you get a seat?

[monroeagogo]

Went to the cinema today. Standard Vue. Get there in plenty of time and someone's in our seats.

Politely did the 'oops you're in our seats' chat after furiously checking I was right beforehand. Lots of huffing and puffing from them and rolling eyes and they moved to, admittedly, worse seats further down.

But WTAF.

Surely if you've book a seat in the cinema, on a plane or train, then that's your seat.

@StoneofDestiny

As a guard, I threaten to charge a Child fare for any bags occupying a seat if the train is busy

Thank you - I wish all guards would do that!

It seldom actually comes to that when I intervene. "Can you please remove your bag from the seats so that people can sit down?" said so that everyone can hear shames them.

Trouble is that if the train is busy, the odds on us being able to get through are much reduced. So the threat is most commonly sent down the PA system than face-to-face.

The other thing I have to do is free up the wheelchair spaces for people who actually need them. I'm afraid that a parent with a pushchair gets far more entitled than the hypothetical businessman on his laptop earlier in the thread. "But, but, but..." gets the response of "please fold it down quickly, the train is waiting". I'm stubborn and won't move until I've got the wheelchair in.

For that matter, if you do have an under five then as they go free they aren't entitled to a seat. By all means they can use them if the train is quiet, but if paying passengers are standing then U5s need to either be sat on laps, or be in possession of a ticket.

Evan you buy a seat for under 5s? I'd hate to travel with a standing child.

Maybe trains need a standing only carriage and everywhere else is seated only, no standing allowed

Or maybe they could just let people sit in first class if the train is full. Or do away with first class altogether. Christ knows where any meaningful distinction comes in when a so called standard class ticket that doesn't even allow for a frigging seat can cost as much as a hundred and fifty fucking pounds one way.

Really, when it comes to public transport in the UK the problem isn't other passengers, mostly. It's the fact that it's shit, overpriced and staffed by people willing to shaft you even further if they can find some nonsense rule to back themselves up in doing so.

I bet that for most of the people on this thread who have encountered seating problems on trains they were on trains with plenty of empty seats. Just not ones that they could personally sit in.

@monroeagogo

Evan you buy a seat for under 5s? I'd hate to travel with a standing child.

Maybe trains need a standing only carriage and everywhere else is seated only, no standing allowed

Nope...I see at least 1 commuter train every few months that has every carriage as full to both seating AND standing room - line of people as if in a queue down the aisle between the seats, when enough services are late or cancelled around it. It looks unsafe whether you are 4 or 34. In cases where I've bee on these, I prefer standing, as sitting down is usually incredibly hot when your face is not catching the air flow higher up.

[quote OnTheBoardwalk]**@Lampyshady* and @MsWalterMitty* I really don’t understand the logic in your posts. Why sit in someone’s reserved seats but then point out there are other unreserved sits they could sit in.

@MsWalterMitty why on earth wouldn’t you sit in a seat you'd reserved?[/quote]
Because I’li reserve so I don’t end up standing. If it’s Full I’ll find my seat, if not I’ll sit anywhere