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Tax avoidance

29 replies

Charlieschocolatefactory · 18/02/2022 17:53

To not know how to feel about someone brazenly telling me they are going to avoid a lot of tax in a way that can't possibly be legal because "they don't want to pay it". I have suspected that their issues previously haven't been someone else's fault like they have previously claimed - seems to be now like a pattern of behaviour.

Especially considering their DS keeps love-bombing my DD regarding how they are destined to be together and giving her gifts. Thing is they are close as friends, less so now. Not quite of an age where anything could have actually happened.

Not quite sure what to do moving forward.

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NewYearCalavicci · 18/02/2022 22:11

To be perfectly honest I am a bit baffled by your post
( in may just be my friday night brain not working )

Is this person young and so not clued up on how tax works , ie it gets taken out of your wages like it or not or are they avoiding paying tax on things .

if they are love bombing (- a term i dislike , it is called harassment) but Not quite of an age where anything could have actually happened. you need to tell them or get your DD to tell them to sod off.

AchillesPoirot · 18/02/2022 22:11

Do you mean tax evasion? Avoidance is legal, evasion not.

DudleyEunice · 18/02/2022 22:23

You need to explain the situation a bit more clearly OP.

Who is the tax avoider? How old are the DC?

Sparklesocks · 18/02/2022 22:44

I assume they are self employed or something? I’m not sure how much you can do about your DC unless they’re very young?

Merryoldgoat · 18/02/2022 22:47

This post makes zero sense to me - it’s like a stream of consciousness.

luxxlisbon · 18/02/2022 22:48

Are these two things even linked??

RoyKentsChestHair · 18/02/2022 22:48

Wealthy people manage their money in various ways. If there are any legal strategies to pay less tax or loopholes that allow them to spread their assets in such a way that it costs them less why wouldn’t they? If it’s illegal (tax evasion) they’ll get caught out by the tax man. If it’s avoidance then it’s totally legit and your moral objections should be directed at government policies that allow it.

Dimensions3 · 18/02/2022 22:49

Odd, tax evasion and love bombing.

sst1234 · 18/02/2022 23:24

What a bizarre post.

callmebymyname1 · 18/02/2022 23:29

I work for HMRC in counter avoidance. Tell me more..

callmebymyname1 · 18/02/2022 23:29

Also tax avoidance is not always legal. Schemes are regularly settled and the tax avoided needs to be paid.

Whiskersonkittens21 · 18/02/2022 23:34

@callmebymyname1

I work for HMRC in counter avoidance. Tell me more..
Love it 😂
Stichintime · 18/02/2022 23:38

You don't like their child love bombing yours so you are thinking about reporting them for tax avoidance? It has just been Valentines day. Are we talking about a 6 year old picking a flower and asking your DD to marry them, or is there more to it?

Wauden · 18/02/2022 23:41

They seem like a strange family.

NewYearCalavicci · 19/02/2022 00:39

I am glad I am not the only one a bit befuddled by this post Confused

Motnight · 19/02/2022 00:49

Is your dd being harassed?

Mincingfuckdragon · 19/02/2022 00:58

Tax avoidance is very often not legal - most countries have a "GAAR" or "general anti-avoidance rule" as well as specific anti-avoidance rules. Under the various GAARs basically if the main reason an entity does something is to avoid tax (and there's no primary commercial or other reason) then that scheme may be caught by a GAAR.

Bugbear of mine, apologies for derailing.

StarryNightSparkles · 19/02/2022 01:07

This wins my random thread of the day. I cant move 😂😂😂😂

OP please tell the boy to leave your daughter alone or act more appropriate. Or if your dd is old enough then get her to do it. Is your daughter even bothered by this boy or just you?

The whole tax thing, I have no clue about so in the words of the dragons. I am out.

ilovesooty · 19/02/2022 01:10

This is weird. I don't get the connection between the two things.

Topseyt · 19/02/2022 01:14

Live bombing and tax avoidance are hardly related issues. Your post is utterly baffling and nonsensical.

Valeriekat · 19/02/2022 05:49

As previous posters have pointed out, minimising your tax is legal and sensible =Tax avoidance.
Evading tax is illegal.

Charlieschocolatefactory · 19/02/2022 07:37

Hello. Yes I get the two issues in themselves aren’t related but that their child is trying to forge close links to mine and I don’t really want her to be associated with people who literally don’t pay tax. This is not minimisation of tax - this is straight up fraud.

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Charlieschocolatefactory · 19/02/2022 07:38

So yes evasion, not avoidance. Wrong word used.

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Charlieschocolatefactory · 19/02/2022 07:43

DD is 17

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Ablababla · 19/02/2022 07:56

I wouldn’t judge a 17 yo boy by his parents behaviour. That’s just so odd and irrelevant. You are likely to have very little control over the people your kids hang out with as adults. Obviously if his behaviour is problematic that’s different and you will have to help your DD to find strategies to deal with it.

How on earth can you be sure the parents are avoiding tax? It’s not the kind of this that os obvious or that people boast about.

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