Neighbours from hell round 2

[Rolyplumcake9]

I recently moved to a new house after escaping neighbours from hell, they ruined our lives for years in so many ways it was a relief to get a fresh start.
But I’ve once again walked into a home with neighbours from hell. I haven’t stopped crying since I realised they are a carbon copy of our old neighbours.
When I couldn’t take it anymore I reported them to the council noise disturbance team and they received a letter about anti social behaviour. They knocked on my door and denied it then ramped up the noise x100.
I am a nervous wreck I cannot sleep and my children are picking up on this and won’t settle. I am desperate to move house yet again despite spending £6000 decorating this house and building a driveway.
It doesn’t seem that we will be able to repair civil relations with these people and the council have warned me it is very difficult to prove they are doing this maliciously so if they get away with it they can do whatever they like without fear. We are tiptoeing around because if they hear one little noise they begin their ‘big noise’ for the day.

It feels like no one will help me and I have to go through this cycle once again being yet another neighbour punch bag.
I am tempted to knock on their door and confront them but I fear this will make things worse. I’m so scared I don’t know what to do anymore and it doesn’t feel like anyone cares enough to make it stop

Not sure if you own or rent, or if they own or rent.
I'm asking as if you own, you need to report any formal complaints made by you about neighbours when selling. This could blight your house.
If you rent - crack on.

Get recording devices set up. Put all your complaints in writing to the council. It's a long hard road to tread and if you are getting the brush off from the authorities involve your MP.
See if you can find out why the people who lived in your house left - it could be because of the neighbours.

They’re both council and the previous family left as they were over crowded
I don’t know if I have the strength to fight it for X amount of months to lose like last time

Well you rent so you have no choice but to win this time

Live in your house normally, make normal noise

If they go big - go bigger.

Turn your speakers to the walls, and tv, and Alexa playing La Traviata - and go round a friends or go out for a drive

Keep doing that until they STOP

Literally it's go big or fucking move

I tried that but unfortunately they stay awake all night drinking and make so much noise none of us sleep, I can count on one hand the amount of sleep I’ve had in a week. No matter what I do they can do it even better than us because they don’t work or have responsibilities. Nothing will make them stop and if the council won’t help me either I am trapped in a house I now hate and losing sleep with no help or support. I don’t know what to do or how I will cope living through this again.

What time do they wake in the morning are they early risers ? If they’re not, introduce this to them in the loudest way possible yes you may have to get up if you don’t already but beat them at their own game they might need to have some early nights if they’re up exceptionally early

They get up at 4am to continue their drinking and they are very loud when they do, even ear plugs can’t block them out. Occasionally they ‘borrow’ a child and I can hear them tell the child to bang on the walls all morning, as the council cannot act on child noise so they find it hilarious. I would love to get my own back by waking them up unfortunately they never seem to sleep, just the previous neighbours strangely.

NOBODY never sleeps. It's very hard to find 2 neighbours form hell. They rent a child to annoy you?! Is it at all possible that you are very very sensitive?

I've lived next to druggie ravers but they do sleep through the day. It's awful, as they "work" and play 7-7 but I can work in the days as naturally they sleep. It means I had employ white noise plus ear plugs and I couldn't have done it with children.

I wish you well op

Are you very noise sensitive OP? It seems incredibly unlucky to get this twice in a row. Most people with shared party walls can hear their neighbours.

Does your local council’s nouse dept ( can’t remember the official name) have an App you download and press record when noise starts. You send it via the App and Council can tell if it is above permitted sound level. Warnings are then put in place.

These people want a response.
Don’t give them the fun of getting any.
Eventually they’ll find another victim.

Of course they sleep.

What did the previous neighbours do?

I’m not sensitive in general but anyone who endured 5 years of daily parties, fights, drugs, music, barking dogs, damaged cars, hearing child abuse that involved social services removing the child, verbal abuse and threats, I’m pretty sure most people would be sensitive to hearing a possible repeat at their new house. They may sleep in the day time when I am at work but they definitely don’t overnight as all they do is shout laugh and scream at the top of their lungs, loud music, beer cans and cigarette butts thrown across my new drive, diy early in the morning, tv on max volume all night, drunken fights, motorbikes being revved all evening, regular police visits, things being smashed against their walls plus much more and yes they do regularly babysit a child and use the child to join in. They obviously have no respect and I’m sure annoy their other neighbours too. we’re getting no sleep at all and if we do we’re woken at 4am on the dot each day. I’m scared it will get much worse and be a repeat of before, I am going out of my mind with anxiety because I’m anticipating it. I didn’t want to go into too much detail incase I’m identified but it makes me feel stupid when people suggest I’m sensitive or over reacting. Right now they are in their back garden with friends and they are all drinking and shouting about stabbing someone who owes money. I’m very scared of them but no one can help because they haven’t directly done anything they can see as abusive or threatening.

Your only option is to move.

Keep reporting to the council, that’s all you can do really

Keep a diary of all the dates and times they are anti social. Write down what they do each time and its affect on you "no sleep" "headache" "anxious" etc.
Report to the council

Log it with your local police - go online and report it as anti social behaviour each and every time. The website should give you the option to put a "flag" on their location. That will end up being logged as data on the police crime map. Which should mean that on a dull evening when youve reported them the police will go and knock on their door.

I also posted anonymously on a local fb page asking them to please shut up. They laughed about it at the time......... but I havent heard a peep out of them since.
With my annoying neighbours........... this has worked - because essentially they are law abiding folk (just apparently totally unaware of how their behaviour was affecting others).
Alas I suspect your neighbours are scarier and may not give a fig about their reputation locally.

Three options I guess - quietly seethe. Moan endlessly. Or move again.

I hope you can find some peace - noisy neighbours are the pits. x

I would be concerned about the child too.
What kind of parent lets their child stay with these kind of people?

You can only move. These people will never, ever change.

As one final resort, you could get pissed and join in and make up with them.

I sympathise. I had to leave my council house and go back to private renting because of the dregs of society next door. I’d also spent thousands on my house. Police and council do fuck all.

Sorry to hear others have been through similar. I still can’t sleep because I can hear them shouting and slamming doors. I need to be at work for 7 tomorrow. They are very intimidating so I don’t want to get on the wrong side of them and I feel ‘lucky’ they only ‘punished’ me with rubbish in the garden and driveway and not threatened to ‘do me in’ like my previous neighbours. I’m not allowed to move yet with new council tenant rules so I am trapped here for a while and feel so close to giving up and running away. I assume the child is a nephew or friends child he looks about 4/5 I do hear him laugh and play so I don’t think he’s in danger although being alone with alcoholics is concerning I can’t prove anything is happening, just that I know for sure they are teaching the child to wake us up on purpose.

Haven't read your previous thread BUT did the council/housing move you because of your previous issues? If so surely they knew who was living next door?! And shouldn't have put you back in that situation.
Also did you kit for any research before you moved?...find out who lived next door etc.

If they moved you there knowing what twats lived next door after s your issues then get on to your mp
Another thing you say you've spent 6lk on your house realistically that could have gone on rent upfront some where you wouldn't get thjs bullshit. You must have known what they were before you spent that.

It's horrible, I went through it, had a noisy family next door to me & a family who thought they owned the road. I was threatened, my late dp was assaulted twice, my then 6 year old was handed a box containing what I suspect were drugs at the door until I got there & gave them back to the man who delivered them, they were openly dealing drugs. It was awful & I ended up exchanging my lovely new home for a flat where thankfully it is much quieter. Could you look at exchanging?

I exchanged my old house to move here. After the stress I went through there I was so desperate to escape I didn’t care where to. The previous tenants at this house said the neighbours were great, I believed her which was stupid of me so I’m to blame, but I guess she was like them and they were friends perhaps. I do regret rushing to leave the old house but I was scared for my children and I was so unwell with stress and depression I had to do it for their sake. We loved the house and it felt like home instantly that’s why I was happy to fork out on updating it. I never imagined walking into a similar situation and now having to pay off a loan for X years to cover the costs of a house we may have to leave soon.
The first few weeks we were busy with diy and work so I didn’t pay attention and they must have spent a few weeks over christmas elsewhere as I didn’t hear much until after that and it’s progressively got worse since. They are still shouting, not aggressively they just have very loud talking voices, the music has gone up and I heard glass smash so it will be another long night of drunken fights and police. I just want to sleep I can’t stop crying

Op I'm so sorry. What you're going through is horrendous.

It's not a solution, but for some respite, I recommend the quiteon earplugs. They're experience, but they really work. Also sleeep earplugs

That’s so much to spend on a property that isn’t yours. Renting privately would definitely have been an option for you. Sorry your neighbours are such hard work but I think your only option is probably earplugs and ignore and hope they get bored of winding you up.

I hate this house now I wish we never moved here I don’t want to raise my children here or do anything to it like we planned now. I don’t feel like I’ll ever be happy wherever we live because I’ll always be scared the neighbours will ruin it and we will have to move house again and again to find the right one

Thank you will I still hear my children and alarm with them?
The driveway cost the bulk of that and only because otherwise it’s a long walk down the road so it felt essential, we will be paying it off for many years unfortunately.