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Can I use the playground of a council estate if we don't live there?

803 replies

Mummy1608 · 09/02/2022 14:04

Quick question...

I live right outside a really big council estate. (Eg I walk through it everyday as a shortcut to my local train station, that's how close I am and how big it is.) It's got a lovely playground in it with lots of cool climbing bits etc. Can I go there with my DD or do you think it's frowned on if I don't live there, because it's meant to be for residents? I can't find anywhere whether this isn't allowed, but it might be technically allowed but still frowned on? My next nearest playground is much smaller (although always empty) and a 15 min walk away.

Tldr can I take my dd to the council estate playground?

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Meh2020 · 11/02/2022 14:19

Use it OP and make some new friends.

Ignore other poster saying no - not sure what council estate they grew up on or now lives on and speaking as someone in the same position - I find that view absolutely baffling.

Tottie · 11/02/2022 14:41

@justasking111
I was quoting what HadaVerde had posted, to point out that their lack of punctuation had contradicted what they were trying to say.
Needless to say, I think I failed Blush and have just made myself look dumb! Sad

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 14:44

@HadaVerde

HadaVerde why are you so certain that the OP isn't talking about somewhere that she is entitled to use? For pages and pages when people told you things where different to what you had said you claimed they hadn't proved anything. You have eventually conceded that things might be different in different places but you still haven't shifted from you statement that the OP's child shouldn't use the play equipment that she was posting about but you can't possibly know that because the OP doesn't give her location

I have never said that everywhere would be the same as what I am describing.

People talking about their different experiences were trying to state that what they were describing meant what I was saying was incorrect. It wasn’t.

I have never said that all types of social housing are the same.

I am making assumptions about what the op describes based on what she said and my experience of places like she described. Pretty much the same as everyone else posting really.

You’re very first post would indicate that you absolutely think it’s as you are describing… why else would you say

Visiting friends who live there? Yes fine.

Using it cos it’s closer than another for public use playground? No of course it’s not ok.

HadaVerde · 11/02/2022 14:49

You’re very first post would indicate that you absolutely think it’s as you are describing… why else would you say

Is this meant to mean something lol.

Yeah my first post confirms what I think and what I have consistently been saying. 🙄

HadaVerde · 11/02/2022 14:51

Toanewstart23

Do you think this is a courtroom drama 🤣

Thanks for the laugh though

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 15:35

It would be a comedy drama if it was!! Grin

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 15:36

With you as the lead Grin

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 15:37

And you said that no where do you say the OP’s situation is what applies to your view

So why does your first post to the OP tell her she’s being unreasonable?

HadaVerde · 11/02/2022 15:46

@Toanewstart23

And you said that no where do you say the OP’s situation is what applies to your view

So why does your first post to the OP tell her she’s being unreasonable?

What?!

I have said numerous times I am going off the OPs description!

You’re not even making sense lol

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 15:52

* I have never said that everywhere would be the same as what I am describing. *

And yet in your first post you immediately jump on the op as being unreasonable

HadaVerde · 11/02/2022 15:59

Are you aware this is AIBU?

You know what that stands for yes?

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 16:03

You said that you never said that “everywhere was the same”

And yet your first post…. You immediately assume that it does and say It “not ok” and the grounds that you say is not ok is nothing to do with council regulation but because to use it because it’s “closer” is “unreasonable”.

“you’re amazed anyone would think it was reasonable”

But if it fell in the places where you admit it would be ok, then it would be reasonable!!

HadaVerde · 11/02/2022 16:13

@Toanewstart23

You said that you never said that “everywhere was the same”

And yet your first post…. You immediately assume that it does and say It “not ok” and the grounds that you say is not ok is nothing to do with council regulation but because to use it because it’s “closer” is “unreasonable”.

“you’re amazed anyone would think it was reasonable”

But if it fell in the places where you admit it would be ok, then it would be reasonable!!

No. I based my response on the OPs description. A description that would mean it’s a residents communal facility that is not for general public use. That Is everything to do with council policy.

Using something you’re not entitled to use because it’s closer and more convenient is unreasonable…is what I was saying.

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 16:15

All she says in op

“Large council estate”
“No where” does it say she can’t

Toanewstart23 · 11/02/2022 16:15

What bit did you extract that confirmed to you it WAS one of the places that fell in your definition of being unreasonable?

Runningupthecurtains · 11/02/2022 17:22

@Toanewstart23

All she says in op

“Large council estate”
“No where” does it say she can’t

Especially as 'large' is a relative term. People in my village think the council estate here is 'large' - it's a couple of hundred properties but it was about about a quarter of the village when it was built. The village has since grown so now it's about a 10th of the village. As I moved here from an enormous SE London estate of 1000's of homes I think it's tiny. But my born and bred in the sticks friends call it the big council estate to distinguish it from the pre 60's council houses in the village which are two terraces of six houses each.
Waawo · 11/02/2022 18:30

Haven’t read the entire thread, but something was nagging when I read back when there were only two pages. Had to get off the train at a different stop tonight so went a different way to school, that we used to do before we moved house. And now I know why it was nagging lol. This is in Deptford btw

Can I use the playground of a council estate if we don't live there?
Can I use the playground of a council estate if we don't live there?
Can I use the playground of a council estate if we don't live there?
Nanny0gg · 11/02/2022 18:34

@HadaVerde

Visiting friends who live there? Yes fine.

Using it cos it’s closer than another for public use playground? No of course it’s not ok.

I’m amazed people think this is ok.

It is for public use.

I bet there isn't a 'Residents for the Estate Only' sign on it

justasking111 · 11/02/2022 20:16

In Wales our social housing is a mixture of old council houses, some purchased decades ago, some later editions of private and housing association properties. A lot of the private are rentals

heffalitis · 11/02/2022 21:23

@Waawo

Haven’t read the entire thread, but something was nagging when I read back when there were only two pages. Had to get off the train at a different stop tonight so went a different way to school, that we used to do before we moved house. And now I know why it was nagging lol. This is in Deptford btw
ha!
AllThingsServeTheBeam · 11/02/2022 21:26

@heffalitis this is literally proving everyones point!! It's sign posted! The park the op was referred and everyone else was referring wasn't

So I think you need to take your 'ha' back. You look silly

heffalitis · 11/02/2022 21:26

[quote worriedatthemoment]@movinghelprequired so you are a leaseholder not a tenant ?
And does it actually say anywhere in your lease its only for residents ? Most private estates pay maintenance but it doesn't mean it only for their use [/quote]
not sure if someone replied, but generally leaseholder means tenant, interchangeable terms

heffalitis · 11/02/2022 21:43

[quote AllThingsServeTheBeam]@heffalitis this is literally proving everyones point!! It's sign posted! The park the op was referred and everyone else was referring wasn't

So I think you need to take your 'ha' back. You look silly[/quote]
The "ha" was because so many people were astounded at the idea that estates would have play areas which were just for residents. As I said, this is pretty standard for near where I lived (not where I personally lived) but I was brought up to respect property entiteled to others, and not to play on their estate without permission. It was not just about ownership it was also about respect.

Lots of people here have not come across this, as you haven't. That is fine. But I am really not sure why this thread turned into so many people who had never come across the concept mocking a poster who was very patiently trying to explain.

heffalitis · 11/02/2022 21:48

*entitled

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 11/02/2022 21:49

@heffalitis where are all these astounded posters? Everyone agrees they exist. But they'd need to be sign posted.

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