To think that dog owners should take their dogs outside if they can't settle them?

[AlexaShutUp]

All of the cafés around here allow dogs. I have no issue with this. Most are well behaved and sit quietly while their owners have their food and drink. They might move around a bit or get a bit excited about the sight of a new dog coming in, but they quickly settle down again. I am not talking about those dogs/dog owners, they are perfectly reasonable.

However, there seems to be a subset of dogs which cannot settle in a cafe. Not the dog's fault, I'm sure, but why on earth do the owners just sit there while their dogs disturb everyone else in the cafe with their constant high pitched yapping and whining? Are their owners so used to this behaviour that they just don't notice? Or do they simply not care that they are ruining the atmosphere for everyone else? If your pet isn't happy, why wouldn't you do something to make them more comfortable (and everyone else as well!)?

Oh look, another thread about dogs in cafes. We haven't discussed this for at least 3 days

Well, I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any threads about this previously. We don't all check every thread before posting you know.

If you don't want to read it, just scroll on.

I assume that you're one of those irritating dog owners who allows their dogs to ruin everyone else's peace, and that you're therefore feeling defensive.

, but why on earth do the owners just sit there while their dogs disturb everyone else in the cafe with their constant high pitched yapping and whining?

Because they don’t give a shit about you or anyone else enjoyment of using the cafe

YANBU, this is why we sit outside with our ddog, he is large and can be excitable so we never take him inside as it would be unfair on other customers, staff or to br completely honest, us.

Yep where I live dogs are welcome in nearly all cafes , shops etc. The yappers tend be begging for food. Owners seem to think because it’s dog friendly that means they can bark, yap, annoy others etc. I don’t use them as whilst I have a dog I have no interest sitting next a dog when I am eating etc.

If they’re training them to settle in cafes there might be a tiny bit of noise. But constant noise with no effort to do anything about it is obviously not acceptable.

@AlexaShutUp

Well, I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any threads about this previously. We don't all check every thread before posting you know.

If you don't want to read it, just scroll on.

I assume that you're one of those irritating dog owners who allows their dogs to ruin everyone else's peace, and that you're therefore feeling defensive.

No I'm not whatsoever, just sick of the same threads over and over again.

If you don't like comments calling you out on your boring thread then don't read them

Why don't you take your own advice and not read, let alone comment on, threads you find boring.

I don't like dogs in restaurants full stop. It's unsanitary and I hate the growing trend.

@MatronicO6

Why don't you take your own advice and not read, let alone comment on, threads you find boring.

Just repeating the advice she gave me...

Someone's got to comment, it's a bit dead on here so clearly not many other people find it interesting either

@Natty13, funnily enough, I didn't start the thread for your entertainment, so it's neither here nor there to me if you find it boring.
There are tons of threads on here which I find boring, but I have better things to do than comment on them.

Your contribution to the threat is entirely optional, and you will not be missed if you choose not to grace us with your presence. I will continue to start/post on threads which are relevant to me.

Thanks for all of those who have commented. It's interesting that a lot of you are dog owners yourselves!

I’m genuinely not trying to start a bun fight, but I often see this comment on threads like this.
I don't like dogs in restaurants full stop. It's unsanitary
I totally get if you aren’t fond of dogs and don’t want them in these spaces, but how is it unsanitary? Unless the dog is in the kitchen prepping your food, what impact does it have to the sanitary nature of your food and drink?

@SantaHat

I’m genuinely not trying to start a bun fight, but I often see this comment on threads like this. I don't like dogs in restaurants full stop. It's unsanitary I totally get if you aren’t fond of dogs and don’t want them in these spaces, but how is it unsanitary? Unless the dog is in the kitchen prepping your food, what impact does it have to the sanitary nature of your food and drink?

My dog sleeps in my kitchen.

Yes they should, and so should parents with their children if they won’t settle either. Nobody wants to hear yapping dogs/screaming babies while enjoying lunch out

I'm not keep on dogs in cafes, I wouldn't take ours in, but I can live with it if done properly. Cafes should make it clear that only clean well behaved dogs are welcome. Owners should properly train their dogs to settle beneath them/the table and stay put if they want to take them into cafes. If they bark the staff should ask the dog owners to keep them settled or leave.

Any dogs with problems with smelly wind should be asked to leave immediately (although it will be difficult to identify the culprit if multiple dogs are in!) They should also be kept on the floor at all times, no jumping up.

@SantaHat

I’m genuinely not trying to start a bun fight, but I often see this comment on threads like this. I don't like dogs in restaurants full stop. It's unsanitary I totally get if you aren’t fond of dogs and don’t want them in these spaces, but how is it unsanitary? Unless the dog is in the kitchen prepping your food, what impact does it have to the sanitary nature of your food and drink?

Their fur shedding, their saliva, jumping up on tables, leftover faeces from pooing left on their bums. There's plenty of room for cross contaminationand much more I could mention. It's just as bad to have them where food is being eaten as it is where it's prepared.

I don't mind dogs but I don't like them in restaurants.

Actually a lot of dogs are cleaner than some people.

Their fur shedding, their saliva, jumping up on tables, leftover faeces from pooing left on their bums. There's plenty of room for cross contaminationand much more I could mention. It's just as bad to have them where food is being eaten as it is where it's prepared

Oh 🤮, to think some people have dogs in their bed

How are you meant to train a dog (or child) to behave without putting them in the situation, tho? We’d never taken our dog into a pub before until last summer, because his brother wasn’t great with other dogs/people. Once he’d died, we took the remaining dog on holiday and he obviously couldn’t stay in the Airbnb alone. I was delighted the took to it like a duck to water apart from one pub where he could see the river and was keen to swim!

Now we have 2 puppies too, so no more pub visits with dogs. Maybe when they’re older.

I prefer to sit outside with my large excitable girl but even she will lay down by my feet. We went to pubs/cafes last year on holiday and it was commented on how good she was.
Yes, yappy/barky dogs should be taken outside if they won't pipe down.

I'll see you 'yappy dog and raise you running/shouting children ;)

YANBU.

We take our dog into cafés and restaurants but he's been coming out with us since he was a puppy and is well used to just lying under the table - we tie him to a table leg so he can't wander but he can get up, stretch and move position if he wants.

If your dog can't behave, sit outside, get takeaway or leave them at home!

@Brigante9

How are you meant to train a dog (or child) to behave without putting them in the situation, tho? We’d never taken our dog into a pub before until last summer, because his brother wasn’t great with other dogs/people. Once he’d died, we took the remaining dog on holiday and he obviously couldn’t stay in the Airbnb alone. I was delighted the took to it like a duck to water apart from one pub where he could see the river and was keen to swim!

Now we have 2 puppies too, so no more pub visits with dogs. Maybe when they’re older.

I get what you mean, but in those circumstances you ideally need two people so someone can take the offending dog (or child ) outside.

Of course getting a dog/DC used to being in cafês etc. requires training but training doesn't mean you just let them cause a nuisance in the meantime.

@lisaandalan

Actually a lot of dogs are cleaner than some people.

Agreed! Children are more likely to infect other humans with their fingers up their noses and coughing and sneezing everywhere . Hardly any canine diseases in UK are zoonotic.

A housetrained, well groomed dog, who is routinely treated for external and internal parasites is likely cleaner than the average 3/4 yr old.

Groundhog day.

Why would they do this?
Training the dog. Getting them used to cafes.
They have already bought and paid for their meals so are eating quickly so they can leave but can't afford to buy lunch twice.
Rudeness