To think parents idling their cars outside nursery are selfish?

[Anon778833]

Every time I pick my 2 year old up from nursery at midday, there are several parents all sitting outside idling their cars for 10 minutes before they pick their child up.

I think this is incredibly selfish and is not good for the environment, the health of the kids or the adults working inside.

I am thinking of mentioning it to the nursery because they are parked in their private car park. IABU?

@saleorbouy

If you're worried about the environment don't have more than two children either, this will have a more significant effect on the environment for the next generation than running your engine. Population increase will kill the planet. .

Um no. My concern is primarily about my 2 year old child (and others) breathing in toxic gases like cyanide. But you know this full well.

@PinkSyCo

I'd do it if I was cold.

Good to know you care about your own comfort more than your child’s or their classmate’s health.

Your scolding does not have any effect on what I do, nor even on my general demeanour.

But I expect you enjoy hammering it out on the keyboard!

Your scolding does not have any effect on what I do, nor even on my general demeanour.

You sound incredibly self serving. You don’t care that small children have to inhale your unnecessary toxic fumes? Really? I wonder if you’d change your behaviour if it caused your child to develop asthma or worse.

@Morechocmorechoc

Sometimes I arrive and genuinely forget. Some people will forget sometimes. Sometimes I have to give the car a burst of heat as my kid can't breathe if it's too cold. Some people have arthritis and can't deal with the cold. When it's 1 outside it takes about 2 mins for car to get cold. I agree if no medical issue then turn it off, esp around young kids. Sometimes it's necessary.

Wait, so your kid can't be outside at all in winter? What do they do at nursery?

Sometimes I have to give the car a burst of heat as my kid can't breathe if it's too cold.

Really? How do they ever leave the house in the winter?

@Aderyn21

They might need to keep he heating on

Wanting to have the heating on is different from needing it.

Britain rarely has arctic temperatures.

Ah so the 4 or 5 cars sitting with their engines running along along the lane for god knows how long are all waiting for kids who's health depends on having a warm car to get into.

Not because the parent wants to sit there on their phone with the heating on ...

Yeah - and i'm Mickey fucking Mouse

@pinkyredrose

Sometimes I have to give the car a burst of heat as my kid can't breathe if it's too cold.

Really? How do they ever leave the house in the winter?

It's weird that the solution for children with breathing issues is to pollute the air outside their school

@TheSpottedZebra

Thing is, as proved on this thread, lots of people just don't give a fuck.

Yup. Probably all in Chelsea tractors too.

It's weird that the solution for children with breathing issues is to pollute the air outside their school hmm

I know! Being in a car brings out the selfish fucker in so many people

I have a child who struggles to breath in the cold.

He struggles a hell of a lot more when having to walk past a row of idling cars.

It's all about being shut in their little metal box isn't it? As if we can't see them/know exactly who they are.

All bloody smiles passing you in the playground.
Yeah we do know you're the cheeky cow who parks ON the pavement making me and my child have to walk in the road.

We do know you're the cheeky cow who sits with her engine running on her phone so i have to breathe in a load of fumes as i walk past.

If just ONE person reading this changes their ways after reading this thread then good on you who ever you are.

Yanbu

*I have a child who struggles to breath in the cold.

He struggles a hell of a lot more when having to walk past a row of idling cars.*

Same.

I am Astonished a parent of someone with breathing difficulties would leave their engine idling. Not least because the pollution will be far worse inside the car than outside it

I remember the thread on here which had a poll asking if people cared enough about climate change to do things which inconvenienced them. The poll came back 50/50. Quite a lot of people don't give a fig about the climate if it means that they have to experience discomfort - even when those inheriting that environment, or being harmed by it, are their own children. It's bonkers and really, really depressing.

@Snoken
Do you have reading comprehension issues? I literally said op was nu but that some comments from some posters pissed me off because not everyone can fucking go for a brisk walk to keep warm. Nice to single out a disabled woman like that.

@Mummyoflittledragon

Thanks for your comment! I can read and comprehend English just fine, but I still don't think there is any valid excuse for idling. I did see that you don't idle, so the comment was just more in general, and not directed at you. I just don't agree that there are circumstances where it should be OK. Especially not somewhere like the UK where the winters don't get particularly cold.

Yanbu.

I'm trying to stop the local parents doing it here. They don't know the lady walking past isn't texting and she's actually taking registration plates and the odd photo.
The council are trying to crack down on it.

Being totally honest I've never actually heard anyone outside of MN mention this issue, so I don't think people are selfish so much as this is just not on their radar at all.

@megletthesecond

Who are you in contact with?

Our local PC is notoriously useless sadly. It's a running joke on the village FB page how crap/waste of money he is. Even when contacted directly about issues he does nothing.

The old headmaster at our village school (youngest DD attends) would regularly send out notices about parking and engine idling and it would keep it down.

New faces at the top and these days they don't bother responding to anyone's concerns now.

laiste the council mainly. They have asked for registration plates of regular offenders.

They really need to put up those little "don't make us breathe polluted" air signs drawn by little kids. Like they do with no smoking signs outside playgrounds.

[quote Snoken]@Mummyoflittledragon

Thanks for your comment! I can read and comprehend English just fine, but I still don't think there is any valid excuse for idling. I did see that you don't idle, so the comment was just more in general, and not directed at you. I just don't agree that there are circumstances where it should be OK. Especially not somewhere like the UK where the winters don't get particularly cold.[/quote]
I never said there was a valid reason for idling. My post from the second sentence starting ‘however’ was about the casual assumption of some posters that everyone can walk briskly to keep war,

*warm.

@megletthesecond ah really? Thank you.

Maybe i should send an email to the school outlining the engine idling and tell them i'm sending a copy by letter to the council?

Found these online. Maybe i should send them (school) a link. I'd be prepared to buy one. Maybe they'd stump up for a second?

signs2schools.co.uk/product/school-signs/wall-signs/no-idling-zone-protect-children-turn-off-engine-sign/

Maybe the poor idlers who get so cold waiting for 5 minutes in their own car should be introduced to that revolutionary technology called "wearing a coat"?

Also, may want to fix their car insulation... Mine will be cold early in the morning, but nice and warm after driving for 5 minutes, and will stay nice and warm if I decide to park somewhere and wait for a while.

Let's be honest, in just a case of complete lack of thinking (like people who leave the tap running while brushing their teeth, just out of habit, not because it serves any useful function)