Arrested for murder - wtaf?

[Wife2b]

Can’t believe what I’m reading. Yes I know Daily Fail blah blah. But reading the article, wtaf?

In short, man stabs woman in broad daylight up to 10 times with a kitchen knife, brave bystanders try to intervene but are unsuccessful. Attacker sits on woman continuing to stab her and the only thing that helps is a random member of the public running over him with a car (albeit unfortunately hitting the victim also). Now both the attacker and victim are dead (likely due to stab injuries I imagine given helpers couldn’t stop the bleeding) and the driver arrested for murder.

What on earth is up with our justice system? It’s like common sense and discretion based on context goes completely out the window.

Aibu to think the bloke should be given a medal and not thrown in the back of a police van?

Link to article:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10437219/What-Words-hero-ploughed-car-woman-trying-save-knifeman.html

It’s not having sympathy for the stabber to say I want a working justice system

You can’t have people running over attackers and victims without this being investigated

Well being arrested for murder and being charged with murder are to entirely different things ,somebody close to me was arrested for murder because they threw their violent and aggressive family member out of their house ,and the family member died of something completely unrelated a few days later ,but the police had to investigate ,he was later charged with common assault on a very limited basis it being acknowledged he was massively provoked
That said people can't just go round taking the law into their own hands .

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But who decides when exceptional circumstances apply?

Someone being actually being killed is a fairly good justification in my opinion. May be a charge if the woman was hit, unlikely for the killer.

They can’t just shrug and say “serves him right” it has to be properly investigated. Almost certainly he’ll be released without charge, but if the alleged (and it is still alleged) knife man was your son, you’d want to know that all the facts had been properly investigated, before his killer was freed, and hopefully, awarded a medal.

@GiftWrappingLikeItsXmasEve

It’s not having sympathy for the stabber to say I want a working justice system

You can’t have people running over attackers and victims without this being investigated

Arrested yes, but apparently we shouldn't be allowed to intervene at all according to some. That's pretty silly, you'd hope if you were being killed someone would stop it. The controversy here is regarding whether the (actual) victim was harmed/killed as a result, not whether stopping a killer is murder (it isn't).

So you come across two people fighting - how do you know who started it, or whether one is fighting in self-defence? Which one are you going to kill to stop the other being killed? What if you go for the wrong one?

@Toanewstart22

The stupid man killed the victim

The murderer? Yes he stabbed her to death by reports so far. The car killed the murderer.

@Toanewstart22 you’ve completed the postmortem then? We can’t possibly know why the stabbing victim died. From the witness reports she was stabbed multiple times before they were hit by the car, so she would have been bleeding out already. We also don’t know to what extent the car hit her, the report keeps mentioning her coat being under the car, so we don’t know what damage was done to her at that point. I don’t imagine it was a decision the driver took lightly, but it was the best he could come up with in the middle of it all.

@kittykutty

But who decides when exceptional circumstances apply?

Someone being actually being killed is a fairly good justification in my opinion. May be a charge if the woman was hit, unlikely for the killer.

Your opinion is just that though your opinion ,,we have a lawful society and proper channels to go through ,not just the opinion of randomers

Intervention is one thing (eg the two people who went after the terrorist at the Fishmongers hall with a fire extinguisher and a narwhal tusk). Deliberately running someone over (and the victim) with your car is quite another.

@Toanewstart22

The stupid man killed the victim

I am guessing you are referring to the man with the knife who was repeatedly stabbing her whilst sitting on top of her rather than the car driver?

Do people actually think the police should just take everything at face value and not arrest and investigate?

Two people are dead, one of them from being hit by a car. Of course he has to be arrested until all the evidence is collected, witnesses spoken with and the likes. What else are they supposed to do?

The woman was screaming in pain immediately before being hit by the car
And was found under the car not breathing
Safe to presume the car killed

Of course he's been arrested! You can't just stop applying the law. Things need properly investigated.
It's not saying he is right or wrong to actually follow law and procedure!

Have you thought of asking the Daily Mail, or another tabloid, for a job? Your histrionic writing style and reactions look suited to them.

Since we didn’t convict the colston statue destroyers, we shouldn’t convict here.

That of course was the problem with not convicting the statue destroyers.

It has to be investigated. The driver made a split second decision in the heat of the moment. We have no way of knowing if the murderer would have also turned on bystanders.

Surely he needs to be arrested so they can interview him under caution and he can ensure he has a legal representative present? The police have to do things by the correct processes in order to be fair to all. They don't know what happened so they need to ensure everything is done according to the law.

Tbh I'm just glad the cunty stabber is no longer alive. Good riddance

If you or your loved one was the poor woman in this scenario - straddled by a knife man stabbing them - your take issue? Because that's what you're precious post is saying, it's not justified. A woman in this case, should be allowed to be slaughtered in front of onlookers, because we can't kill an active murderer?

And what happens @kittykutty if they investigate this and discover that the car driver actually caused her death. It's not clear at this moment in time exactly what happened but if you're playing the "if" game here, what would you do if this was your loved one who could have actually survived a the stab wounds but was actually killed by their "saviour"?

He killed at at least 1 person. Possibly 2. Of course he's been arrested for murder. Circumstances come into play for the investigation but not in the immediate aftermath.

@DropYourSword

If you or your loved one was the poor woman in this scenario - straddled by a knife man stabbing them - your take issue? Because that's what you're precious post is saying, it's not justified. A woman in this case, should be allowed to be slaughtered in front of onlookers, because we can't kill an active murderer?

And what happens @kittykutty if they investigate this and discover that the car driver actually caused her death. It's not clear at this moment in time exactly what happened but if you're playing the "if" game here, what would you do if this was your loved one who could have actually survived a the stab wounds but was actually killed by their "saviour"?

Maybe. If he's charged for the woman's death I think that's actually understandable but for the perpetrator- no way.

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Maybe. If he's charged for the woman's death I think that's actually understandable but for the perpetrator- no way.

You don't know anything about this situation. You can't make judgements yet. That's why it's being investigated before they decide what should or shouldn't be done.

Remember the Queen of Hearts? Sentence (or not) first, verdict afterwards?

@Toanewstart22 you don’t think being stabbed 10 times with a large knife could be reason enough to scream and then stop breathing?
In the article the stabber is frequently referred to as run over and the stabbing victim was hit by the car. So we don’t know how the impact of the car affected her