Getting really pissed off here!!!!!

[LookItsMeAgain]

I don't even live in the UK but this constant rolling out of MP's to say "There wasn't a party" or "Just because there was cake, and we sung Happy Birthday to the PM doesn't mean that it was an organised party" or whatever the latest awful awful behaviour that has happened in Downing Street (be that in the garden or by one of their former advisors who travelled to Barnard Castle to test his eyesight during the pandemic) is just so infuriating??? I mean Grant Schapps was on BBC Breakfast stating that because there was cake and the interior designer for the Number 10 flat was also there and they sang Happy Birthday, it didn't constitute a party for the PM as it wasn't 'organised'?????? I mean WT actual F????

There is an awful lot of expectation being left at the door of Sue Grey too. I honestly wouldn't want to be her right now. She could possibly bring down the UK government but then again she could possibly leave Boris Johnson in power too with whatever she ends up writing. I honestly would not want to be her.

How are the electorate not being more vocal and demanding his resignation for breaking the very rules he himself said down the camera lens to the rest of the population and the world??

YANBU

And how do you think we could be more vocal? People get arrested and thrown in prison for protesting nowadays (first they do it under the guise of it being inconvenient but it will put people off protesting generally).

Plenty of noise online and letters written to MPs. That’s all we have now.

Because the electorate have been suckered into compliance on so many levels it’s frankly frightening.

And let’s be clear. Sue Gray isn’t bringing the government down. They’re doing it all by themselves.

@Seriouslymole

Because the electorate have been suckered into compliance on so many levels it’s frankly frightening.

And what about you?

@Iggly

And let’s be clear. Sue Gray isn’t bringing the government down. They’re doing it all by themselves.

Yes, I would agree with you there but it will be her report that puts the final nail in that particular coffin (or not, depending on what she says and how she says it).

I honestly thought they would be gone after Cummings trip to Barnard Castle last summer. I really genuinely did.

It's diabolical.

I think the Sue Gray report will only be twisted or written in a way which can be twisted though. See also: report on institutional racism in the UK.

We are all being told to 'wait for the Sue Gray report'. Why? For what? Especially if we're not going to get to read it in full.

In what ways do you want the electorate to be more vocal? We cannot demand an election which would be the most powerful way to be vocal

The media (even Tory supporting outlets) are scathing, people are vocal on Twitter and MPs themselves have said that their constituency meetings have been full of people saying how pissed off they are. People are using the outlets they have available to them to be as vocal as they can but hands are tied for now

The only thing we can really do is write to our conservative MPs who can bring about a vote of no confidence.

I don’t think this will bring down the government. It will be the end of boris but I don’t think others are being nearly so tagged with this as he is.

@Seriouslymole

Because the electorate have been suckered into compliance on so many levels it’s frankly frightening.

This!! Too many people are happy to excuse any wrong doing by the government because they were doing a difficult job in a difficult situation What I can't believe is that people don't see they have been played. The government did all these things because they knew it was safe to do so whilst telling us to stay at home. If it was truly a plague like situation they would not have done what they did.

I wonder if there is an underlying fear about who we’d get instead if Boris did go. It’s not like there’s an amazing, or even an acceptable, candidate waiting in the wings. We’ve ended up with Boris in the first place because Theresa May’s position was untenable, but there was no obvious succession option.

The Sue Gray report will not be published to a wider audience in full.

They would not want to prejudice the outcome of any legal proceedings.

totally agree. GS said 'well he has already dealt with this issue and apologised' but that was for ONE party, not an endless stream of the,
He tried to say it was two years ago, so we should basically let it go - but June 2020 was peak heavy lockdown. We had just lost my mother in law, not allowed to visit her in her last days. Why is it OK for him
GS said 'but dont forget the PM had been in hospital with covid' as if that was some magic golden ticket that allowed him to act with impunity. Its becoming clear that it was his bloody recklessness that put him in hospital in the first place.

and DONT try to deflect with 'oh but the vaccine programme - THAT was run by the NHS, and thousands of volunteers - when you tried to organise Track and Trace it cost a packet and was a complete fiasco. And yes, our scientists..... But again, YOU are the people cutting the NHS, cutting the research budgets, pricing the future scientists out of education.

@PurpleDaisies

The only thing we can really do is write to our conservative MPs who can bring about a vote of no confidence.

I don’t think this will bring down the government. It will be the end of boris but I don’t think others are being nearly so tagged with this as he is.

You're saying that no one else from the Conservative Party or the Government was at the 'birthday party' for the PM or the countless Garden Parties in Number 10?? Not a single one? And even if they were, they shouldn't lose their jobs??

And the ones who are being rolled out to try and prop up Boris by saying what they are saying now...shouldn't they go if Boris goes? They are spewing lies left right and centre. They are lying to their constituents and not just a little white lie but big fat ones that when this is over they won't be able to get past.

So tainted by association won't be a thing in the Conservative Government?

People have outrage exhaustion. This has dragged n and on and on and people are running out of f**ks to give. Certain people in power know this and are counting on this.

@NettleTea - Oh my God!!! I had forgotten this bit:
GS said 'but dont forget the PM had been in hospital with covid' as if that was some magic golden ticket that allowed him to act with impunity. Its becoming clear that it was his bloody recklessness that put him in hospital in the first place.

That Boris was in hospital with Covid...where did he contract it if not at one of these parties and gatherings when he was supposed to be only meeting with 1 other person outside his household at the time.

That the NHS ran the vaccine programme but the GOVERNMENT ran the Track & Trace which cost millions to the Exchequer but didn't have a lot to show for all that money being thrown at it.

Oh my god you are so right!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like the electorate ever get listened to.
For wherever reason, Boris is being made the scapegoat in this. In reality, I doubt any in parliament followed the same rules as us plebs, which tells us all we need to know about the virus.

How are the electorate not being more vocal and demanding his resignation for breaking the very rules he himself said down the camera lens to the rest of the population and the world

What would you like the electorate to do exactly? Storm parliament and threaten to lynch people? Riot in the streets?

Maybe they could wait until the next election and use their votes. I think there's a word for that - ah yes it's democracy.

@Whatwhywhenwhere

People have outrage exhaustion. This has dragged n and on and on and people are running out of f**ks to give. Certain people in power know this and are counting on this.

You shouldn't be exhausted about this though. This is about how your country, your services (national and local) are being run and who is running them.

I would have thought that after a few lockdowns, people would have unspent energy and would be marching to Westminster and to their local MP's constituency office getting loud and having their voices heard about this.

@BFPDec21

It's diabolical.

I think the Sue Gray report will only be twisted or written in a way which can be twisted though. See also: report on institutional racism in the UK.

We are all being told to 'wait for the Sue Gray report'. Why? For what? Especially if we're not going to get to read it in full.

The sheer fact that his defence had been "wait for the sue Grey report" for 2 pmqs and outside of it as well makes me think he knows it won't make a blind bit of difference/he won't publicise it

OP you say you don’t live in the UK so maybe don’t know how it works but the public cannot call a general election which is the only way to get rid of a government.

We can march and protest as much as we can but we don’t have parliamentary power. Yes we can speak to our MPs but let’s be honest a lot of them (granted not all) are in the job for themselves and not for the greater good. They certainly won’t want to put themselves in a position that they petition for something that could cost them their job

I want these fuckers out tomorrow but it’s a bit naive to think that is all turning up in Westminster with banners is going to make that happen

I mean Grant Schapps was on BBC Breakfast stating that because there was cake and the interior designer for the Number 10 flat was also there and they sang Happy Birthday, it didn't constitute a party for the PM as it wasn't 'organised'?????? I mean WT actual F????
Grants Schapps is a proven liar who used a number of fake names to peddle internet get rich quick schemes - exactly the kind of person Tories respect.

Don't worry Boris is one of the 'Walking Dead'! He is only still in post because of Covid and no one thought it a good idea to change him then.
His job was to close-out the Brexit problem after 3years of denial. Teresa May was a failure she thought she could ignore the vote and do it "in name only".
At least now we do not have Faragists saying we haven't had Brexit. There is no real force against the Gov't from the Right.
Boris also galvanised people to reject Corbyn. I don't know how it happened it is a mystery but it sure wasn't Keir.
We now have both Houses full of Centrists. Free Marketeers R of Centre in Commons, Leftish & LibDems in Lords.

In HoL yesterday a Minister resigned in a speech and walked out. It was over writing of Fraud Debts. WOW how often does that happen?
Tory Party will not like a contest between Sunak and Truss.

Boris will continue until a steady successor who will be widely accepted as being as competent as Starmer
All above IMHO, WWIK that you don't?

@Womencanlift - true. I don't know how the UK electorate works. You're completely right there.

The sheer fact that his defence had been "wait for the sue Grey report" for 2 pmqs and outside of it as well makes me think he knows it won't make a blind bit of difference/he won't publicise it

Exactly this. Sue Gray works for Johnson, she has been commissioned to write the report by Johnson and she will give her findings directly to Johnson.

Dominic Raab has refused to confirm that the Sue Gray report on alleged Downing Street parties will be published in full, saying the amount of detail released publicly will be a matter for Boris Johnson.

So it seems it’s for Boris Johnson to decide whether we’re told the truth about Boris Johnson.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/23/sue-gray-partygate-report-dominic-raab?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

@HashtagShitShop - love the username btw.

You dont live in the UK.
They are not your elected government

Cant see why it bothers you any way or has any impact on your life?

What about your own politicians?