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Johnson "has seen no evidence of blackmailing"

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ThinWomansBrain · 20/01/2022 18:24

Blackmailing would presumably be a hushed conversation in a shady corner.
Coming from a man that failed to spot a party taking place in his own back garden (that he attended), AIBU to think that even if true, this latest pronouncement from the Trump pretender means sod all?

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InAState22 · 20/01/2022 19:56

@llanfair11

I have seen no evidence that Mr Johnson is fit to hold public office.
😂
jgw1 · 20/01/2022 19:56

Starmer doesn't know what a woman is.

Seemslikeagoodidea · 20/01/2022 19:59

You know when he's lying, 'cos his lips are moving.

TheCloudBotherer · 20/01/2022 20:01

You are all, of course, forgetting that if Corbyn was Prime Minister we'd be queueing up for our bread rations while Hamas rape our womenfolk and all our national monuments are replaced with giant statues of Che Guevara and Tony Benn.

Really, you're very lucky to have a government willing to blackmail democratically elected state officials. You ungrateful little plebs.

Shambolicatthleast · 20/01/2022 20:03

@jgw1 I thought irony initially but having read your post history you are for real Grin

TomPinch · 20/01/2022 20:12

@Shambolicatthleast

Pork barrel tory politics as usual. Whether it be affluent tory voting constituencies getting more dosh from the Towns fund than genuinely deprived Labour ones, West Midlands tory MP Gary Sandbrook boasting that he had greater access to central government money than any other candidate or surrey county council getting a huge rise in funding after threatening to hold a referendum for a council tax rise, they are steeped in corruption. And yet you'll have poster after poster defending them like they are a bl*y football team.
True, except there is nothing usual about the levels Johnson and co are taking it to.

It's a characteristic of his time in office that 'funds' are are allocated to localities for 'investment' in public works etc. There is no reason why this couldn't be done though normal ministry budgets according to the laws.

But instead Johnson wants to dole out patronage like a medieval king and reward voters and MPs in return for support.

And there's the covid response VIP fast lane for Tory friends.

And there's the weird Paterson business where Johnson basically tried to usurp the Speaker's role.

And the unlawful proroguing of parliament.

And the parties etc.

There's nothing normal about this. Johnson is a dangerous fool and he's either corrupt himself or being used by corrupt people who are raiding public money.

Regardless of anything else, people like him should be nowhere near power.

Corbyn is a twit but he's gone now.

Johnson's the rich twit who gets drunk, breaks other other people's stuff and thinks it was a jolly good evening.

jgw1 · 20/01/2022 20:12

[quote Shambolicatthleast]@jgw1 I thought irony initially but having read your post history you are for real Grin[/quote]
Of course I am for real. Just trying out some squirrels while the interns have a work meeting.

noblegiraffe · 20/01/2022 20:13

@jgw1

Why is anyone paying any attention to the latest fairytale from Dominic Cummings?
William Wragg, the Tory MP who made the claims, in parliament, that Boris is blackmailing MPs into supporting him is the vice-chair of the 1922 committee.
tacostacostaco · 20/01/2022 20:13

The PM is dodgy beyond belief. You can't believe a word he says.

ThatLibraryMiss · 20/01/2022 20:29

@Cornettoninja

Literally my first thought when I read it. At various points he’s been unaware of how many children he has too. He’s self-proclaimed unobservant…

'Calling "laughable" the suggestion that the Prime Minister should somehow know the rules that he created himself; he barely knows the children he created himself.'

echt · 20/01/2022 20:29

But Jeremy Corbyn would have been worse

You don't know that because it didn't happen.

jgw1 · 20/01/2022 20:35

@echt

But Jeremy Corbyn would have been worse

You don't know that because it didn't happen.

Everyone knows it would have been worse. Look at that coat he wore.
Meandthesky · 20/01/2022 20:36

I really don’t understand how anyone can claim there could be a worse PM if Labour had won! The only person I can think of who would’ve been worse is Donald Trump.

I do strongly believe that any other PM of any political party would have the decency not to pretend they didn’t know the very basic and clear rules they had set and briefed the nation on (this was back when the rules were clear and simple). Or that they didn’t know they were at a booze up because apparently all work events include alcohol.

ThinWomansBrain · 20/01/2022 20:38

does anyone know when Sue Grays report (into whether or not there was a party, that even Johnson has admitted he attended Hmm) due to be released?
I'm interested, given that so many MPs are allegedly waiting for that to decice whether Johnson's behaviour is acceptable.

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jgw1 · 20/01/2022 20:40

@ThinWomansBrain

does anyone know when Sue Grays report (into whether or not there was a party, that even Johnson has admitted he attended Hmm) due to be released? I'm interested, given that so many MPs are allegedly waiting for that to decice whether Johnson's behaviour is acceptable.
Monday or Tuesday next week seems to be the speculation. Unless of course another party turns up before then.
LakieLady · 20/01/2022 20:41

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

The number of things he doesn't see is remarkable. I'm surprised Specsavers aren't tweeting him with special offers.
It's because he misses a lot when he's busy hiding in fridges.
ThinWomansBrain · 20/01/2022 20:41

You can't believe a word he says.
but you can be 99.9% certain it's a lie

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ThinWomansBrain · 20/01/2022 20:43

hiding in fridges? they jsut lock him in because the parties are more fun without him Grin

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Alexandra2001 · 20/01/2022 20:47

Andrew Bridgend MP backs up the claims and he was formerly a Boris supporter.
Steve Baker says its Checkmate for Boris too.

But even more worrying than Blackmail is that MPs are threatened with monies/projects will be taken from your constituencies... FFS thats us! the voters!!

He really does hold us beneath contempt.

jgw1 · 20/01/2022 20:50

@Alexandra2001

Andrew Bridgend MP backs up the claims and he was formerly a Boris supporter. Steve Baker says its Checkmate for Boris too.

But even more worrying than Blackmail is that MPs are threatened with monies/projects will be taken from your constituencies... FFS thats us! the voters!!

He really does hold us beneath contempt.

Angela Raynor...
PurpleCarpets · 20/01/2022 20:55

Johnson saw no evidence of a piss-up when he was at a piss-up. Johnson cannot see a border in the Irish Sea when he signed an agreement erecting a border in the Irish Sea. Was it a Johnson in the crow's nest of the Titanic in 1912?

VikingVolva · 20/01/2022 20:55

@noblegiraffe

What? Oh is that blackmail? I thought it was a work event.
Catalyst, I think he might be telling the truth

But there's the truth ...

..... the whole truth (I haven't seen the evidence, but I've heard a briefing on it), and

..... nothing but the truth (I told them to make sure I was never shown any documents as that would muck up this approach)

the80sweregreat · 20/01/2022 21:04

I see no ships, only hard ships
Said Boris , only he doesn't remember saying it

letsallchant · 20/01/2022 21:13

@jgw1

Starmer doesn't know what a woman is.
People really need to stop using this line as some kind of excuse for a corrupt government to continue in office.
Piggywaspushed · 20/01/2022 21:30

Criminology 101:

*Spiral of Denial
Stan Cohen (1996) identified a spiral of denial that states use when accused of human rights abuses.

"IT DIDN'T HAPPEN"

The first reaction is often to deny that anything occurred at all. This lasts until formal bodies produce evidence that it did occur.

"IT'S NOT HOW IT LOOKS"

Once such evidence is provided, the next stage is often to question a particular version of events, instead claiming that others carried out the atrocity or the evidence pointed to something rather different occurring.

"IT HAD TO BE THIS WAY"

The final stage of the spiral of denial is to admit that the abuse occurred but to justify it. To suggest that it was the fault of the victims, or that there was no other way.*