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Presence of evil

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beachcitygirl · 17/01/2022 14:03

Aibu to ask if you've ever felt yourself in the presence of evil. Following on from
The intuitiion thread.

I once met a friend of my ex in a coffee shop. The man was nothing but civil & friendly. Soft spoken & was an ex police officer. My then husband was there also.
I went to the loo & spent ages as something about him made me feel afraid. I stress it was just a feeling. Zero untoward behaviour.
Many years later he was arrested & found guilty of violent rape.

Has anyone else ever sensed evil? (For want of a better word)

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notatroll45 · 18/01/2022 18:50

Going back some years now, me, my mum and my daughter had been shopping and went back to the car park, as we loaded the car 2 men came and asked if we'd seen who had broken into the next but one car. I don't know what made me feel like it or why but I felt so uneasy, I told my mum to get in the car and lock the doors.

A few days later it was reported that a woman was violently attacked and robbed in that car park by 2 men with the same description.

Trulyhadenough · 18/01/2022 18:52

On a ranch holiday in the US. One evening the father of some other ,young adult, guests arrived .Everyone was terrified .He emanated evil just standing there. Turned out he was the Don of a mafia clan. Even the wranglers ,full of machismo themselves, were spooked by that guy.

Mariamaria71 · 18/01/2022 18:53

Years ago my mums friend was trying to find somewhere to stay while she was at college. Found a room in a house that seemed lovely and was all set to take it until she met the owner. He creeped her out so much she left and found somewhere else. It was Fred West.

EerieSilence · 18/01/2022 18:55

I don't believe I'm very emphatic but there was one colleague, who I was totally scared of.
He was very pleasant, friendly, never did or said anything untowardly, strange, dangerous, just a normal bloke.
But he gave me the creeps and whenever I talked to him, I had to keep my distance.
There's no "and he turned out to be a serial murderer" revelation to him. He left the company, we talked on Linkedin few times, never met him in person again. Innocent stuff again.
I feel very guilty about that because there's nothing rational about how I feel.
I go for walks to parks and alongside the river sometimes. I like relying on my dog to judge the character of people, she's usually absolutely spot on. There was a guy approaching us she started barking at, it was only me and him on the footpath. He turned around and left quickly, even though she didn't come close to him and came back to me when I called her. She's otherwise very friendly and ignores people who she finds OK.

Pinkmagic1 · 18/01/2022 18:55

Yes, one of dh's friends. He has never done anything to upset me, but he makes my skin crawl and I can't even bear to be in the same room as him.

Strangeways19 · 18/01/2022 18:56

Yes a few times. One that stands out is a school friends dad, who used to give me the creeps, felt very uncomfortable in his presence to the point where I didn't even like talking to him. Later turned out he was sexually abusing all of his children, both girls & boys. He was imprisoned for this.
Also I moved into a flat when I was younger & felt really upset there, had no clue why, just thought I was having some sort of mental break, then was chatting to the landlord who told me that the last person who lived there had committed suicide & no-one found their body for several days, until the smell was obvious.
Yes I believe that you can get feelings from places & people, but I don't think it's called evil, just energy

trudi33 · 18/01/2022 18:57

Our dog a quiet Dobermann bitch who we had since she was a puppy did spot evil. When we worked abroad. We invited a friend we knew into our house for coffee and he came with a polite friend of his who we did not know. Our bitch saw this second man sit down and then went and sat 2 feet away from him facing him ,every move of his she followed, she was completely quiet, we tried to move her, (it was getting embarrassing!) she would not move and quietly followed him out when he went. It was weird to watch, she had been a normal pet until then. We found out a few days later that this man was a major drug dealer. She knew. I am a vet and that impressed me.

Lamaitresse · 18/01/2022 18:59

We got a dog last year (who didn’t 😂) and ds 14 and I started walking him separately to share the walks. Entirely independently we both picked up on horribly evil vibes emanating from a house down an isolated country lane a km or so from our house. We both stopped walking the dog that way, and only realised when we went on a family walk with my husband who wanted to go down that lane. He thinks we’re both loopy, but ds and I are adamant that something terrible happened there. It’s now known as The Creepy House and we always try to avoid it.
V weird.

Millionairesshortbreadshort · 18/01/2022 19:01

I’ve had a dog bark and growl at me for no apparent reason but I like to think I’m not evil Grin

Never had the feeling about a person but did have a very strong physical sensation and premonition type thing once. It was a premonition about a personal loss and it kind of felt certain if that makes sense. I never told anyone and forgot about it - I have a science background so dismissed it as an odd experience that was random - but then about four months later it came true. Sad

‘There are more things in heaven and earth…’

Agathacrustie · 18/01/2022 19:02

I lived in the flat next to a guy who was arrested for rape and armed robbery. Exchanged hellos when we met in the hallway of our block of flats. I used to leave the door of my flat open when the kids were babies so my mum could just come in if I was feeding. .

I got a shock when the police knocked on my door one Saturday tea time and said they’d like to sit and wait in my flat for him to come home (they didn’t say why or what he had done) . He seemed totally nondescript and definitely didn’t give off any evil vibes. He didn’t come back that evening so after a few hours sat in my living room the police left. A few days later they chased his car and arrested him. They found a pile of guns and knives in his flat. Even after I discovered all this I can’t say I detected anything off about him. I’ve been in buildings and in areas that have had very unsettling and unpleasant vibes though.

Spooktacular1 · 18/01/2022 19:05

Yes! Last year I had a really really bad feeling while at work that something bad was going to happen. I was thinking about locking the door to our venue, but didn't because we had customers coming in and out. Literally 10 minutes later we were arm robbed and I was assaulted.

Elderflower14 · 18/01/2022 19:06

@Mariamaria71

Years ago my mums friend was trying to find somewhere to stay while she was at college. Found a room in a house that seemed lovely and was all set to take it until she met the owner. He creeped her out so much she left and found somewhere else. It was Fred West.
🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯
Kanaloa · 18/01/2022 19:14

@trudi33

Our dog a quiet Dobermann bitch who we had since she was a puppy did spot evil. When we worked abroad. We invited a friend we knew into our house for coffee and he came with a polite friend of his who we did not know. Our bitch saw this second man sit down and then went and sat 2 feet away from him facing him ,every move of his she followed, she was completely quiet, we tried to move her, (it was getting embarrassing!) she would not move and quietly followed him out when he went. It was weird to watch, she had been a normal pet until then. We found out a few days later that this man was a major drug dealer. She knew. I am a vet and that impressed me.
Being a vet I’m sure you’re aware dogs have a very very good sense of smell and are often used to detect drugs, even trace amounts in someone’s luggage for example.

Surely that is a much more likely explanation than ‘she understood that drug dealing on a large scale is harmful and that this can sometimes be conceptualised as evil due to the terrible effects it can have both socially and on the individual and she applied that to this man who at no point showed any sign of being a drug dealer.’

Trippingslippingx1 · 18/01/2022 19:15

Yes

A few years ago I met a guy and had dated him a few weeks - seen him a handful of times. I seen him one Sunday and there was nothing whatsoever he said or did I could pinpoint but when be left my flat that night I was sweating and anxious. I went to work the next day and my colleague asked if I was OK? I said I am fine but I had this strong instinct to dump him this guy. Very strongly. I messaged him to dump him and he was 😮 as we were meant to be seeing each other that Tuesday. He was like why? Has something happened? I said I could not explain it.

A few years later I find out he had raped multiple woman which is why he had moved around the country so much.

Trippingslippingx1 · 18/01/2022 19:18

I also feel like I can read energy from text messages
Like even if the content of a guys message is completely normal - I know he is going to ghost me
I also know the opposite way around if they are hardly messaging but they are interested and my friends are like he hardly messages 🤣

TurquoiseDragon · 18/01/2022 19:19

I dislike when people start going on about kids and babies being potentially evil because of their eyes.

We have a belief held by many in our society (whether religious or not) that eyes are a "window to the soul". Which is a load of bunkum, really.

There are posters on here claiming they're worried that some kids they know will grow up doing bad things because of the way their eyes looked. I don't believe that's true. They might be subconsciously picking up on behaviour in relation to older kids.

But I've come across a couple of kids who were perfectly nice, no behaviour worries, but other people were feeling like they were going to turn bad as they got older. In both cases, the kids had something slightly wrong with their eyes.

One of these kids is an adult now, still never anything wrong with his behaviour, the other is a teen, again nothing wrong.

Bertiebiscuit · 18/01/2022 19:20

Yes - a man at my workplace who waited until everyone else had left the office and followed me surreptitiously into the ladies, sat in a cubicle doing nothing that I could hear, just waiting - I ran out of there and slammed the door behind me and ran down the back exit stairs, didn't slow up until I reached my station - pure breathing evil stalking me 😈😈I left that job very quickly I, luckily he was on different shifts to me, I never told anyone as I didn't feel I would have been believed

Celestine70 · 18/01/2022 19:22

Yes. I lived in an 16th century coaching house. I never believed in anything before then but things happened in that place that could only be explained as paranormal. There was definitely an evil presence there.

oakleaffy · 18/01/2022 19:24

@Mariamaria71

Years ago my mums friend was trying to find somewhere to stay while she was at college. Found a room in a house that seemed lovely and was all set to take it until she met the owner. He creeped her out so much she left and found somewhere else. It was Fred West.
If this is a true story...and I have no reason to doubt you, that is terrifying.
FanGirlX · 18/01/2022 19:26

Muncaster Castle. The room that's supposed to be haunted by the jester. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

riceuten · 18/01/2022 19:27

@MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry

Well evil doesn’t exist, so no, but you can certainly form accurate gut instincts about people based on unconscious signs they give off.
Well, evil exists in humans, with a root cause, but certainly not as a stand alone effect. Gut instincts have so many sources and cues, but not "woo" from the spirit world
Hamnan84 · 18/01/2022 19:29

This has really given me a shiver. We went to York at Xmas time in 2019 and went to Clifford's tower. My husband went a bit woozy and weird there ! He said he didn't feel right and that he must be suddenly scared of heights or something (he's a builder and most def not scared of heights) he got a headache and we left !

TurquoiseDragon · 18/01/2022 19:29

I like relying on my dog to judge the character of people, she's usually absolutely spot on. There was a guy approaching us she started barking at, it was only me and him on the footpath. He turned around and left quickly, even though she didn't come close to him and came back to me when I called her.

I think many people would turn round and walk quickly away from a strange, barking dog, regardless of whether they were good, bad, or indifferent.

TerraNovaTwo · 18/01/2022 19:30

To those who say evil doesn't exist, that's just your narrow opinion and experience of the world.

There's evil aplenty in this world.

What are concentration camps and genocide? Animal cruelty? Child abuse and infanticide? Psychological abuse? Rape and molestation?

Celestine70 · 18/01/2022 19:32

Another place that freaked me out a little was Bergen-Belsen. I don't think there was evil there but it was eerie and totally quiet. It was summer and warm but the place just had a chill and no birds sang even though it was surrounded by forest.

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