Presence of evil

[beachcitygirl]

Aibu to ask if you've ever felt yourself in the presence of evil. Following on from
The intuitiion thread.

I once met a friend of my ex in a coffee shop. The man was nothing but civil & friendly. Soft spoken & was an ex police officer. My then husband was there also.
I went to the loo & spent ages as something about him made me feel afraid. I stress it was just a feeling. Zero untoward behaviour.
Many years later he was arrested & found guilty of violent rape.

Has anyone else ever sensed evil? (For want of a better word)

Amphitheatre at Verona, never had a feeling like it before or after😨

@Mossstitch - had similar with the amphitheatre at Saintes in France. Have been to others including Verona but had no bad feelings. However in tunnel leading to the stadia part both me and friend felt really spooked and doom laden. Also on the route there though (down stairs past old churches etc) I also felt doom - presumably this must’ve been routes where gladiators and slaves were taken.

And FWIW @2gen I’ve experienced some pretty horrific shit in my life. Enough to know how I feel about it.

[quote whiteworldgettingwhiter]**@Nowayoutonlydown* - She text me that night and asked how I knew. Knew what? That he had raped and attempted to murder his ex.hes on some sort of lifelong thing where he has to give the details of his crime before he sleeps with someone.*

This is batshit. Some people a on this thread are just daft.

Why would have been in your friend's house? Why would she have let him in? Why didn't she tell you about him when she saw toy were talking to him?

And there is NO 'lifelong thing where a criminal has to give details of his crime before he sleeps with anyone'! Where's your critical thinking? How would this ever be policed? And why on earth would anyone do this? 🙄🙄🙄[/quote]
I was at her house one evening? Isn't it usual to socialise with friends in their homes?
He came to visit her at the same time, her house is a bit more "open" than mine.

She was friends with him despite this. We had conversations about her safety with him around. Her answer was that she had weapons in each room incase he did something. It wasn't a party or anything so we were in the same discussion. The discussion seemed perfectly normal to her. I am married and was at the time, so no need for me to ever know what he did.
I'm unsure of the ins and outs or if there is indeed a lifelong thing, but that's what she told me.
I have no reason to question what she said, I just make sure he isn't going to be visiting when I go to see her.

I've never felt quite such a heavy feeling when people have just chatted to me.

@Gonnagetogoing yes, exactly the same, was a specific part down the back tunnels where in hindsight the people would have been kept to send out to battle. I was very young at the time, was only there as with other people and didn't really know the history til later but I felt it and still shudder 40 years later at the memory of the feeling.

Yes but I am too frightened to divulge more details!

I would definitely say always trust your gut instinct... Every boyfriend who I felt a bit lonely when I was with, or I preferred socialising in a group with, turned out to be pretty evil in the end.

Glencoe freaks me out equal measures of love and hate.

I used to have work with a wee boy whose uncle was one creepy man, turned out he was abusing the child and sharing it all online.

@Nowayoutonlydown yes there is an order that can be made where someone has to disclose their crime before having sex with someone. It is rare and very controversial.

There was a teacher at my secondary school that I felt uncomfortable around. I told my parents that he creeped me out but I didn't know why. One September we returned after the holidays and he had been jailed for paedophilia.

@MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry- You felt the need to patronise me because you don't share my beliefs and mistakenly thought my suggestion people do a bit of reading was a personal dig at you. Well it wasn't but if yo want to feel clever by insulting people's faith ("SKY FAIRY"? Like I've never heard that one before! You can't even come up with an original insult!) and minimising the experiences of others then knock yourself out! It shows me who you are and that's good to know.
Have the last word if you must.

This is an interesting thread aside from those who weirdly feel like they need to do a deep dive into whether evil exists and in what form, lighten up ffs.

I can't even link or post a picture, but if you Google 'the man everyone has dreamt about' it actually evokes a physical reaction in me and no idea why.

@Letsbekindplease

I helped care for a woman and her son would sometimes be there. Very strange guy. He scared me but I never let him see that he made me feel uneasy. I knew he had drug habits etc. he murdered his girlfriend last year. I think you know a feeling. It’s more than a feeling I think

😱 was he not caught by the police? How did you find out?

I love walking up on the moors despite how bleak and desolate some people find them, I love the sense of solitude and find the landscape beautiful and I'm not at all phased by the remoteness... but, there's one particular reservoir that always leaves me with a feeling of unease, even on a lovely summers day the atmosphere there just feels oppressive and sinister and leaves me wanting to get away from there as quickly as possible.

I once had a really terrible feeling about a random stranger many years ago & can’t possibly know if my instinct about him was right, but it’s a feeling I can recall absolutely vividly and have never experienced before or since.

I was in the supermarket with DS, who was about 2 or 3 at the time, and he was sitting in the trolley. It was quite busy and I was weighing some fruit or something when I happened to turn and saw a man on the other side of the aisle staring intently at DS with an expression on his face that’s difficult to describe - all I know is that I was overwhelmed with the feeling that this man wanted to do something bad to my son; his whole demeanour somehow expressed an intent to do harm, and I felt it viscerally, like a darkness coming off him, even though the supermarket was busy and brightly lit. (I’m aware how ridiculous and dramatic that sounds but I don’t know how else to explain it.)

When he saw me looking at him he quickly turned and walked away, but it left me with a horrible feeling I couldn’t shake for days.

@Kanaloa

I suppose evil really means something deeply wicked/immoral, however it is generally characterised by an association with the religious or supernatural, or an idea about the inherent ‘badness’ present in someone.

That’s why I don’t really agree with it as a concept. To me it’s the same as the word ‘monster’ when used about someone who has murdered someone, and is mainly used to ‘other’ people who have committed horrific crimes rather than accepting that it’s likely to be in some way a societal issue rather than that some people are inherently evil. It sort of removes blame or responsibility for the crime in my opinion.

To me, saying it’s in some way societal tries to remove the blame. People can choose to be evil or not. I don’t think the holocaust and especially certain people involved in it can be described as anything but evil.

I’m more fascinated by feelings of negativity associated with places. People I understand, because I think we’re primed by thousands of years of evolution to read one another and asses risk.

But what on earth is going on when one experiences a negative presence in a location, or a building? I assume there’s association involved by prior knowledge of any wrongdoing that may have happened ever there. But that doesn’t explain why someone can walk into a house they’ve never seen before & have a physically adverse reaction, or go to a location that’s seemingly innocent & feel undiluted fear.

@Croissantly that whole thing was a hoax apparently

[quote tinkywinkyshandbag]@Croissantly that whole thing was a hoax apparently [/quote]
Yes I read that too, I don't feel like I've ever seen someone similar but for some reason I can't explain just really makes me feel weird!

@MorningStarling I have asked people about this exact thing so many times. One time I got to the end and could hear keys rattling behind as if someone was walking behind me. I stepped to the side and pulled the kids over to the side to let them pass and there was no one there at all. We just about ran out of there 😂

@CaveWoman1

I’m more fascinated by feelings of negativity associated with places. People I understand, because I think we’re primed by thousands of years of evolution to read one another and asses risk.

But what on earth is going on when one experiences a negative presence in a location, or a building? I assume there’s association involved by prior knowledge of any wrongdoing that may have happened ever there. But that doesn’t explain why someone can walk into a house they’ve never seen before & have a physically adverse reaction, or go to a location that’s seemingly innocent & feel undiluted fear.

It's interesting isn't it. I've felt really creeped out in what I'd class as conventially creepy places, like there's a historic building nearby and one of the rooms was a nursery and has a rocking horse etc in it- the air feels heavy and I always feel uneasy in there, but I think it's probably more as I've watched too many horror films hah! I have felt a sense of dread in some public toilets, but I wonder if it's more being alone and vulnerable in them rather than some sort of spirit.

I never liked Jimmy Savile, but my (always hyper sensitive) mother had met and shaken hands with him in the 70s, and had always said that he gave her the absolute shudders. My folks lived not far from Broadmoor, and were friends with the chief psychiatrist there, so were invited to do’s now and then, where JS was present more than once.

I do sometimes wonder how the chief psychiatrist never picked up anything - or if he did, kept quiet about it. Maybe because he was so used to the ‘criminally insane’ who lived there, some of whom would apparently have come across as perfectly normal people if you had met them socially.

I say this because close friend of mine was married to a man who turned out to be a textbook narcissist, and a psychiatrist who knew him only slightly through work, had warned her before they were married that he had a ‘very complex’ personality. She only realised rather later that it had been a veiled warning.

I like threads like this. So about 4 years I was visiting family in Europe and there was an overgrown patch of bushes and trees etc between my aunties house and the local shops. I used to walk there and back a few times that holiday and every time I felt shivers and got an absolutely awful feeling walking past that I couldn’t describe. A week after I returned home it was on the news that a young woman had been murdered and her body thrown in those bushes hidden away for Atleast 2 weeks. Makes me shiver even now .

Yes, but possibly because I knew this person well. She wasn't possessed or anything though, she was just a truly awful person, possibly a psychopath. I don't want this to be outing because it was a well documented case although long ago and in a different country. She was sent to prison for 7 years which was an extraordinarily short sentence for what she did. Before that, she wreaked absolute havoc on people's lives and got away with it.