To think ring doorbells are intrusive?

[museumum]

I’ve just discovered that my friends ring football starts recording audio when its motion sensor triggered.
Thank fuck we were only saying “you press it ds, it’s that one on the left” etc and not saying anything more personal or offensive but wtf?
AIBU to find it very intrusive to be recorded like that without knowing!

I think the question is actually 'why do people feel the need to have them'?

Our road got them en masse after a serious spike in burglaries & parcel theft from porches.

The most worrying thing is what Amazon is doing with all this data it's collecting. And nobody seems to bat an eyelid.
Also be wary if you own one. Because it collects data, and data of other people. You basically have control of this data (and Amazon). Have a read of this... very interesting. It's all going to come to a head when people realise how bad this can be.
www.newstalk.com/news/is-your-video-doorbell-illegal-under-gdpr-1281674

I dont like them as I do think they are intrusive and I dont like the Amazon link but I do intend to put in cctv after we were burgled.

If anyone has any cctv recommendations that would be great.

Trust me the novelty wears off pretty quickly and you don't watch the recording alerts unless there's a reason! I love ours, only wish we had got it when I was breastfeeding as we always seemed to have a delivery (for us or various neighbours) at the time I'd feed my baby and I had to get up and go to the door every time 😩

@trickyex

I dont like them as I do think they are intrusive and I dont like the Amazon link but I do intend to put in cctv after we were burgled.

If anyone has any cctv recommendations that would be great.

You can get cctv that is wired, doesn't use wifi. Then you can store it on your own harddrive and nobody else has access to your footage.

I have one. My DH works away a lot. I feel safer having the doorbell as there have been a few criminal incidents in my local area. One of our neighbours’ doorbells picked up a man trying peoples car doors in the middle of the night and that’s when we decided to get one.

I never had a ring doorbell or cctv.
I live along the front of a river with houses facing out towards it. We quite often get people walking past causing problems late at night from the village pubs.
One particular night there was loads of music and noise coming from the river jetty, me and my neighbours went out, asked please to keep noise down as children sleeping and it ended with the bloke breaking my innocent neighbours jaw in 2 places, all beause we asked him to keep noise down.

I have since installed a ring doorbell cam and neighbours have installed ccyv. If that had been installed before this the evidence is there but now we will be going to court to fight

People greatly overestimate how much people care about what they say and do. I have a ring doorbell and it offend picks up people walking by. How many times have I clicked that footage and actively watched and listened? None. I check it only when the doorbell rings but would never bother to watch it back. I never look at the motion sensor footage and would only do so if something were wrong.

Anxiety over ring doorbells is a bit OTT to me. No one cares what you're doing, no one is rewatching footage of you strolling past, no one cares. Unless you've burgled them they don't give a shit.

I no longer take parcels to my neighbour as they have one. I hate the idea that I'm being filmed. (I send DD instead!)

Hopefully our driveways are wide and long enough that they aren't recording me on my own property.

I think the question is actually 'why do people feel the need to have them'?

Because I need evidence of the fucker who keeps harassing me, thanks. That's the only way police will lift a finger on the issue.

Bitofachinwag thanks, wired cctv sounds like a plan.

I think the question is actually 'why do people feel the need to have them'?

Honestly? My mum has one after someone tried to break in through the front door. She's elderly & frail. She's not doing it because she wants to hear if people are bitching about her before they ring the bell.

I don't think she's even listened to any audio. Most people don't. They get the alert someone is at the door and if it's someone they're expecting or a postman / worker they let them in. Nobody I know gleefully replays the footage to catch people out.

may as well live in china, germany has the right idea

I love mine. My door is at the side of the house so it only records people actually coming to my door.

It records audio but i can't imagine many folk play back clips to listen. I can honestly say that apart from the first week or so I had it I've never listened to any of the recordings. I dont even view most other than the first couple of seconds.

I think the question is actually 'why do people feel the need to have them

It's not hard to work out. I've got one for several reasons. I live alone & it's a bit of extra security. I work shifts & am often sleeping during the day. If someone comes to the door when I'm in bed I can see who it is & talk to them if necessary without getting up. I also have a health condition which regularly flares up and I cant get out of bed, so again handy for then

My friend has one too, her house layout has their living area upstairs so it saves them trotting up & downstairs un necessarily.

I wouldn't be without mine now

@Tara336

Your recorded in shops, by dash cams in cars, by CCTV on the street, why would a Ring doorbell be intrusive when we are watched pretty much everywhere we go?

Because general cctv is only monitored when it needs to be for security reasons. However, Ring doorbells no doubt entice nosy people to see what their friends were saying on the doorstep of what passing neighbour was saying. People are much more interested in people they know.

I won ours. I would never have bought one but my view totally changed after the doorbell captured some key evidence in a murder investigation. The victim's family is very grateful.

I know people a few people who don't have subscriptions and people who just have generic video doorbells that might not record and store in a cloud or whatever but even the cheap £15 ones have the ability to record via the app and store on phone.

I'm in a few group chats that have been formed via MN with people who share hobbies and people in everyone have shared recordings of their neighbours rowing as they walk past, of them walking home drunk and stumbling about to laugh at them, of their dog peeing on their car, picking a wedge out of their arse as they wash the car and just general normal stuff like that and I know two people personally who when I have been at their house, have thought nothing of opening their doorbell camera just to see who is leaving or entering their neighbours house and then listening in to their convo in their doorstep. They know what benefits they get and what they earn from earwigging.

Local Facebook group once had a man post footage of some bloke sneaking up their terraced street looking suspicious and climbing over someone else's wall. He posted it with a "bloke acting suspicious on xxxxx street" and it wasn't a burglar looking for a house to break in, it was bloke sneaking for a quick shag in the yard of his mistress after their spouses fell asleep.

My immediate neighbour has one and I hate it. I live on a terraced street and his door is inches away from mine and even if I went half way up the street he'd still be able to listen and because I've seen so many people casually and openly listen in/ record and share their neighbours convos in group chats I wonder how many of the people on my terraced street listen in too. I've certainly seen the lights come on one a few when my sister has been chatting to me as she's leaving.

There's even an official Ring YouTube channel that shows footage of crimes being stopped, people being helped and also people falling over and I've often wondered if the people in the footage know that Ring have put them on YouTube.

I got one. As soon as I realised how much the mic could catch really well I removed it. It felt so creepy.

I can see the positives in them too though and I don't think everyone who has one is nosing on their neighbours. But I think the nosey type who is at the window whenever a car pulls up to see who is going where, like the type of people who write posts on here about their neighbour having three takeaways a week just now have a more convenient and sneaky way to be a nosey fucker.

What has Amazon got to do with it? Mine came from QVC. My mum got it me when I was being harassed by an ex. Was very handy.

Also, yes to the fact I can hear conversations outside without it. People talk louder than they realise.

I no longer have the alerts on mine (it's not a doorbell just the camera) and I never bother watching the footage really.

It's interesting how we are recorded so much on cctv, yet if you or the police request it it doesn't seem to exist

Everyone says "oh, I would never do X Y of Z" when the subject of Ring doorbells comes up but there are enough threads on MN about neighbours being awkward about their use to see that this isn't the case for everyone.

I totally see why people have them but my neighbour recently bought one and it's turned her into a a paranoid loon! I've also warned my DH and DD that it picks up audio in case of off the cuff remarks. I'm v conscious that it picks me up every time I go out, and I know that cos they showed me its view

What has Amazon got to do with it?

because it's Amazon Ring...