To think the Met will do nothing about the Downing St parties and now seem corrupt

[Poetrypatty]

AIBU to think they won't do anything? Surely there were even police officers stationed in Downing St when it actually happened.

I feel sorry for all the decent hardworking Met police officers because the bad ones, and all of these scandals and the failure to be seeming to hold up the law (by those at the top) is really damaging faith in the police.

Seem?

I've been told rumours there was a NYE party too

It's a Seem? from me too.

NYE party or not I don't think it can get any worse than it already is. I do feel sorry for decent police officers. Met needs a big overhaul.

You are seriously expecting the outfit headed by Dame Cressida Dick to investigate the government that re appointed her over objections from almost every possible quarter ?

In the nicest possible way ... grow up.

Of course not. They themselves are vaguely implicated as they have officers guarding and protecting Downing Street. So are limited as to what they can investigate given they stood their and signed them in!!!

What do you mean NOW seem corrupt? They have been corrupt for years and years.

The Met will do nothing. There will be some partial performative contrition from Downing St (not directly from the PM) and more announcements about waiting for Sue Grey’s investigation to be concluded. They’ll sweep it under the carpet and say it’s an internal matter, sack someone faceless and unaccountable to the public. Finally we’ll be told to “move on”, “the matter is closed” and “the public want us to concentrate on real issues”. We will have a textbook brush off. Democracy and accountability and voters treated with contempt.

I actually think it's a massive waste of police time and money when there's already an internal ongoing investigation and people were only being fined for breaching lockdown anyway - and almost nobody actually got fined.

I think that anyone proven to be there should be forced to resign.

I’m surprised it’s news to anyone that the Met’s corrupt. It always has been.

@ItsSnowJokes

What do you mean NOW seem corrupt? They have been corrupt for years and years.

First thought. This isn't a new thing.

I don't think choosing to work for a corrupt and abusive institution is compatible with being a "decent" person or officer tbh.

When the Dick at the head of the Met refuses to resign over one of her own officers abducting/raping/murdering an innocent woman, you can't really expect them to give two shits about a relatively trivial lockdown breach.

@MorningStarling

When the Dick at the head of the Met refuses to resign over one of her own officers abducting/raping/murdering an innocent woman, you can't really expect them to give two shits about a relatively trivial lockdown breach.

You forget the mind-boggling incompetence that caused an innocent man to have his head turned into so much squishy pulp by having a series of exploding bullets through it.

She was in charge of that and was promoted.

@EvilPea

Of course not. They themselves are vaguely implicated as they have officers guarding and protecting Downing Street. So are limited as to what they can investigate given they stood their and signed them in!!!

The officers at Downing Street do not ‘sign people in’. To get in you either have a pass or you’re on a visitor sheet provided by Downing Street staff. The officers don’t interrogate guests of the government as to their reason for visiting and they don’t enter number ten itself.

The officers at Downing Street do not ‘sign people in’. To get in you either have a pass or you’re on a visitor sheet provided by Downing Street staff. The officers don’t interrogate guests of the government as to their reason for visiting and they don’t enter number ten itself.

Presumably they were obeying orders.

@SerendipityJane

The officers at Downing Street do not ‘sign people in’. To get in you either have a pass or you’re on a visitor sheet provided by Downing Street staff. The officers don’t interrogate guests of the government as to their reason for visiting and they don’t enter number ten itself.

Presumably they were obeying orders.

I don’t think you understand. There is no ‘order’. You get a list of visitors at the start of your shift and all the staff who work there have passes and can come and go as they please.

I’m not sure why you presume the PC on the gate gets to decide who is granted access? They have no say in it.

and almost nobody actually got fined....

Over 100,000 people have been fined for breaching covid regulations

I don’t think you understand.

That could be true at any time of the day

There is no ‘order’. You get a list of visitors at the start of your shift and all the staff who work there have passes and can come and go as they please.

It's curious and concerning that "obeying orders" isn't recognised for the horrors it was attempted to excuse

I’m not sure why you presume the PC on the gate gets to decide who is granted access? They have no say in it.

I wasn't "presuming" that. Merely making a comment on how excusing people because they were obeying orders might sound to some people of a certain age or background.

But it literally isn’t an order. If this had happened in your building or in your work place you wouldn’t blame the concierge or the security guard at the desk.

I’m not saying you’re wrong to be angry though, I am too but maybe save your ire for the staff at number ten who arranged the party rather than the officers who don’t even have access to the building.

@Snoopysimaginaryfriend

But it literally isn’t an order. If this had happened in your building or in your work place you wouldn’t blame the concierge or the security guard at the desk.

I’m not saying you’re wrong to be angry though, I am too but maybe save your ire for the staff at number ten who arranged the party rather than the officers who don’t even have access to the building.

But if the security guard at your work saw 100 people walking in with bottles of wine and beer and didn't question it or raise it with anyone - at a time where nobody should've been coming in - some of the blame would fall to them.

@SerendipityJane

I don’t think you understand.

That could be true at any time of the day

There is no ‘order’. You get a list of visitors at the start of your shift and all the staff who work there have passes and can come and go as they please.

It's curious and concerning that "obeying orders" isn't recognised for the horrors it was attempted to excuse

I’m not sure why you presume the PC on the gate gets to decide who is granted access? They have no say in it.

I wasn't "presuming" that. Merely making a comment on how excusing people because they were obeying orders might sound to some people of a certain age or background.

Godwin's, innit?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#:~:text=Godwin's%20law%2C%20short%20for%20Godwin's,or%20Adolf%20Hitler%20approaches%201.

Cressida Dick should have gone a long time ago but here she still is.

The MET in my opinion has been corrupt for many years.

But if the security guard at your work saw 100 people walking in with bottles of wine and beer and didn't question it or raise it with anyone - at a time where nobody should've been coming in - some of the blame would fall to them.

But you could argue that officers guarding the door would assume that anyone coming in to No. 10 would have legitimate reason to be there. They may not even have seen booze going in (and it sounds like Government are booze hounds anyway, sorry). The Government are the drivers in damaging the reputation of the police by carrying out a frankly audacious breach of their own rules and laws, under the nose of security.

I actually don’t doubt that the Met is corrupt but the Government is ultimately responsible for putting police officers in this position.