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Original poster

Please help solve this argument! Pulling my hair out.

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100daysandBeyond · 09/01/2022 19:12

I will try and keep this as succinct as possible.

DC's have a very committed scooter hobby. Thanks he parts cost a bastard fortune, but they save and they are committed. A full scooter (stunt scooter, not small motor bike) is about £400-£600.

DS1 had his stolen by a bunch of 17 year old arseholes who took it off him, threatened him and then eventually sold the parts.
I borrowed money from a something else I was saving for for the house and bought him a new scooter. My thinking was, it was an outdoor activity that kept him fit and out of trouble (generally!) and he had committed many years to it and trains for competitions and so on.

DS2 is following in his footsteps and has been for about 2 years.
One kid asked to swap wheels to he could have a go, and fucked of with my sons (much better) wheels.
DS2 was gutted.

He came home and my son realise they are his wheels from his stolen scooter.

Here's this issue.

DS1 wants his wheels back. Despite me buying him a brand new scooter.
His argument is - they are his wheels. He wants them back.

DS2 says they aren't his wheels, his were stolen and without them he has none.

To stop the arguments, I bought DS2 some new wheels and DS1 got his old ones back.

Now the argument has started again, they both claim the old wheels are theirs.

Who is correct?!

I can't just chuck the wheels because wheels wear out quickly and they will be needed when the new pair wear out.

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MrsClatterbuck · 09/01/2022 23:12

If you get your car stolen and you are reimbursed by the insurance company. Then your stolen car turns up you don't get to keep it plus the money from the insurance company.. Your ds1 had his wheels stolen and then got them replaced. Now they have turned up he doesn't get to keep both.

Bagamoyo1 · 09/01/2022 23:13

Rife means common

Original poster
100daysandBeyond · 09/01/2022 23:14

@MrsClatterbuck

If you get your car stolen and you are reimbursed by the insurance company. Then your stolen car turns up you don't get to keep it plus the money from the insurance company.. Your ds1 had his wheels stolen and then got them replaced. Now they have turned up he doesn't get to keep both.
Is that actually true then?

Because we were wondering about the legalities of it.
I guess it's a moot point really, as this doesn't involve an insurance company but the contents of my wallet.

So less legally and more morally, I supppse.

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Original poster
100daysandBeyond · 09/01/2022 23:15

@Bagamoyo1

Rife means common
Good grief, I know what rife means. Confused

I was laughing at the notion that crime was rife in my area because a scooter and some wheels were stolen.

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SpideySenseTingles · 09/01/2022 23:17

Yeah, you need to supervise your kids at the skate park because both of them have now been targeted by thieves and will probably be targeted again.

Don't know why you keep laughing that suggestion off.

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100daysandBeyond · 09/01/2022 23:21

@SpideySenseTingles

Yeah, you need to supervise your kids at the skate park because both of them have now been targeted by thieves and will probably be targeted again.

Don't know why you keep laughing that suggestion off.

I didn't Confused
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Bagamoyo1 · 09/01/2022 23:21

Well my kids have been going to parks for years and have never been victims of any kind of crime. I’d have thought that in your sample size of 2, there’s a 100% crime rate, which seems pretty high to me.

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100daysandBeyond · 09/01/2022 23:23

@Bagamoyo1

Well my kids have been going to parks for years and have never been victims of any kind of crime. I’d have thought that in your sample size of 2, there’s a 100% crime rate, which seems pretty high to me.
Really? I'm assuming each time they have gone they have taken expensive equipment that is easy to take apart to sell individually?

What is it they take each time?

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Bagamoyo1 · 09/01/2022 23:48

Well I wouldn’t let my kids go unaccompanied with expensive kit to a place where people regularly nicked stuff!

DrWhoNowww · 10/01/2022 00:00

@MrsClatterbuck

If you get your car stolen and you are reimbursed by the insurance company. Then your stolen car turns up you don't get to keep it plus the money from the insurance company.. Your ds1 had his wheels stolen and then got them replaced. Now they have turned up he doesn't get to keep both.
This.

If you put yourself in the position of insurer because you’ve bought DS1 a new scooter then the wheels are totally yours and not his.

So you can do what you want with them, I like the idea of giving them one each if that works.

Or if they kept moaning I’d keep the wheels and fashion an ornament out of them or something equally ridiculous that has no value to either DS so neither of them get the wheels.

Alternatively, sell your wheels and get yourself something nice with the proceeds .

Rittersport · 11/01/2022 18:04
  1. Fifteen yo in skate park on their own, ok
  2. With a £400 scooter, a bit daft, why can't they train on their 'old' ones and keep the good ones for comps?
  3. Ten yo in skate park alone, no
  4. With a £400 scooter, ridiculous
  5. When you know there's much older scooter theives operating in the area, appalling.

You've failed in your duty of care to your 10 year old massively, you basically set him up to be mugged! You owe him more than a pair of wheels!

Original poster
100daysandBeyond · 11/01/2022 20:18

@Rittersport

1. Fifteen yo in skate park on their own, ok
  1. With a £400 scooter, a bit daft, why can't they train on their 'old' ones and keep the good ones for comps?
  2. Ten yo in skate park alone, no
  3. With a £400 scooter, ridiculous
  4. When you know there's much older scooter theives operating in the area, appalling.

You've failed in your duty of care to your 10 year old massively, you basically set him up to be mugged! You owe him more than a pair of wheels!

  1. Thanks for your permission.
  2. It doesn't work like that. He uses scooters until parts break. Gets new parts and so on and so forth.
  3. He wasn't alone, my husband was in the play park with the toddler in eyesight. It didn't look like anything untoward. DS didn't tell us until dinner time.
  4. You got this information from where? 10 year doesn't have a £400 scooter.
  5. Theres thieves where every you go unfortunately. Given how much time my eldest has spent at skate parks and this is one incident with him in 6 years, it's not exactly rife.

In all that self-rightous, judgemental post, you didn't even answer the OP.
Too busy shining your big Better Parent Than You badge.

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Freddiefox · 11/01/2022 20:29

@Flipflopblowout

Why are you buying expensive stuff for two children who don't take care of it?
Wheee do you get that the children don’t care? Doesn’t particularly sound like either of them had a choice in handing them over.

Op I feel sorry for your dc’s.

It’s must be awfully traumatic to have things stolen from them, particularly when there are more off them and older.

I think ds1 owns the wheels, and his current become the spares.

Freddiefox · 11/01/2022 20:31

@Bagamoyo1

Well I wouldn’t let my kids go unaccompanied with expensive kit to a place where people regularly nicked stuff!
@Bagamoyo1

No trainers? Or phone?

SpideySenseTingles · 11/01/2022 20:41

Which of your sons own the wheels is less important than finding ways to ensure your kids aren't robbed again.

Maybe you know that, but from your posts, that really doesn't seem to be your priority

Original poster
100daysandBeyond · 11/01/2022 21:05

@SpideySenseTingles

Which of your sons own the wheels is less important than finding ways to ensure your kids aren't robbed again.

Maybe you know that, but from your posts, that really doesn't seem to be your priority

That might possibly maybe because my post isn't about my DC being robbed - which happened 6 months ago.

It's about scooter wheels.

Confused
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Getyourjinglebellsinarow · 11/01/2022 21:18

One each is fair now. What I'd have suggested before you bought more wheels was to offer DS1 to swap entire scooters or keep the new wheels he has. He was being a bit bratty with that. But since they'll need new wheels anyway. They both get one. Or whoevers wears out fastest gets them and the next person just gets new ones like they would have done anyway.

Big picture. It's a lot of theft of expensive stuff. Can't you get them cheaper stuff for in the park and go to proper indoor skate parks with their good kit every so often. You'd save money paying entry over replacing stolen stuff.

ldontWanna · 11/01/2022 21:41

What's actually causing the arguments? Do the boys contribute when wheels are replaced and basically both angling for a "freebie"?

I'd either do one wheel each to replace whichever one has worn out , or the first that gets worn out wheels gets the "old" ones and the second gets brand new ones.

AdobeWanKenobi · 11/01/2022 22:28

Op I get it. DS used to skate board and the price of wheelsm bearings and trucks could make your eyes water. Fortunately his were never stolen, but it does happen.

Anyway, my point. Have you spoken to your home insurer? Apologies if you've mentioned it and I've missed it, but you can get cover for stolen bikes outside the home so I'd imagine you could also insure scooters.

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