To think that some young people dress like they're oppressed?

[WindInTheWillows7]

I'm in my early 20s, and I've noticed some fashion trends among my peers which seem deliberately geared toward making the wearer look what I can only describe as oppressed. I'm only talking about my observations in student areas of London, so don't know if it's just here. For example, shaved heads; baggy clothes which make you look undernourished; workman boots and cropped trousers that make you look like you're in a prison camp in Siberia; boxy worker jackets; fisherman beanie hats... It's almost a dystopian look, or like they've emerged from a Soviet country, malnourished, pale, and worn out from heavy labour.

(FYI, I am no fashionista and I am not "judging" people who dress like this, just wanting to see if others have noticed it and what you think it's all about!).

Not really noticed this look in Hereford yet. We certainly have the orange, big lips, giant slugs for eyebrows though.

It's the latest fashion. Must say I love it! Very much like I used to dress as a teen in and in my twenties!

You do sound a little judgemental...

They are called shipsters 😁

www.esquire.com/uk/style/fashion/a30256309/shipster-fashion-trend/

OP, are you familiar with Mel & Kim from the late 80's? If you watch top of the pops from then, a lot were wearing similar, banarama wore the trousers and boots. Fashion just goes in circles. They aren't necessarily anymore intelligent than those who fake tan etc as suggested. Can we not brand young women stupid based on their appearance?

Is it not possible to critique aspects of society without being decried as judgemental and offensive?

@freelions

Tbh I think the ones who are identikit perfectly groomed with lip fillers, scouse brows etc look more oppressed

THIS!!!

The various elements have een the fashion of skater types and indie types for absolutely years, I loved it when I was younger and still do now!

And I give you...the belle stars
(80's pop band for those of you too young to know)

Completely agree

@WindInTheWillows7

Is it not possible to critique aspects of society without being decried as judgemental and offensive?

of course but with all things wrong with our society focusing on the clothes one group wears seems a bit shallow.

I blame Kevin Rowland.

@JaneJeffer

I blame Kevin Rowland.

I’m middle aged and I think it’s cool!

@ghostyslovesheets
So we're only allowed to discuss serious societal problems. Fashion is off-limits. Noted.

@JaneJeffer

I blame Kevin Rowland.

😂😂

My DD wears the style you described, grungy.
She likes to hide herself.

you can discuss what you like - but people don't have to agree

also in defence of the orange mini dress gang - my eldest DD goes clubbing most weekends in a tan, fake eye lashes and freckles and a skin tight frock - she's also about to gain her 3rd A at A level plus an A* for her EPQ - plays centre midfield (excellently) for a women's football team, is a feminist and has applied to LSE to study Politics and International Relations - so I try not to judge a book by it's cover!

Yes they look like they are extras from district 9 in the hunger games

I love my classic dms.

Haha, yes!! I get what you're saying, BUT, and here's the big but the first two pictures you've posted are very similar to DDs style. I often say she looks like she's raided a charity shop for clothes from the 80s/early 90s.

Despite how you think they may look, these clothes are not cheap. Many of DDs items are £100/200. The boots pictured in the second picture are DMs, they retail at £150 plus. DDs collection vary in price from £150 to £200 a pair.

This is fashion, and it's far more expensive than my "tidy" clothes.

Wow you can really tell what generation people are part of on this thread. Some of you used to wear neon like it was the best thing since sliced bread. Pot calling the kettle black 😂

@TheHoptimist

PS @TheHoptimist is you name a nod to the springy little happy people - I collect them!

It is- just packing the Christmas ones away!

I'm so glad to discover what they're called! A toy shop near us when I was a child had them in the window. We called them "springy thingy"s

I've not seen this, but it sounds great. Young people are meant to be non-conformist. It feels like we've had a decade of young adults feeling compelled to a narrow range of acceptable looks and dress, with really separated gender norms.

I was lucky enough to be a teenager when grunge was the thing. My parents despaired - why could I not wear nice clothes that made me look pretty? - and I loved it.

@ghostyslovesheets

you can discuss what you like - but people don't have to agree

also in defence of the orange mini dress gang - my eldest DD goes clubbing most weekends in a tan, fake eye lashes and freckles and a skin tight frock - she's also about to gain her 3rd A at A level plus an A* for her EPQ - plays centre midfield (excellently) for a women's football team, is a feminist and has applied to LSE to study Politics and International Relations - so I try not to judge a book by it's cover!

I have no problem with people disagreeing - that's why we discuss things. I have a problem with conversations being shut down on the grounds of them being "offensive" or "judgemental". In order to think, you have to be able to use negative language sometimes. Critiquing societal trends is not judgemental - it's just being a thinking human.