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Blair knighthood

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Mummyrowland · 03/01/2022 02:54

Nearly half a million people have signed a petition over his knighthood in 48 hours.

It should be removed and he shouldn't be awarded it.

After all what did he do that was good?

What about all the squaddies he sent to their deaths over the supposed wmds?

High ranking members of the armed forces are threatening resignation if his award isn't reconsider

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 05/01/2022 13:02

@Thoosa

I wonder whether the long wait for a K was itself supposed to be the punishment for that pesky warmongering behaviour? Ex PMs usually get elevated sooner. That must be the misguided rationale, but it’s tone deaf to public opinion.

Not good enough, and really not on. Do the panel really have such short memories?

Or perhaps they were sufficiently farsighted to recognise that a reaction like this would be likely, so reasoned that if they waited long enough the accolade might pass unnoticed or people would forget.

Seems they weren't quite farsighted enough.

VelvetChairGirl · 05/01/2022 13:03

Lets face it the honours list is nothing but a list of scum and villainy and has been for decades it really doesnt mean anything.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 05/01/2022 13:06

@VelvetChairGirl

Lets face it the honours list is nothing but a list of scum and villainy and has been for decades it really doesnt mean anything.
It does, but likely not what some of the decorated ones want it to mean. Given the dubious state of some of the names on that list, who would want to be tainted by association? I say kudos to the ones who turned them down. It would be good to see the lot put out to pasture, along with the Lords and the Windsors.
Bunnyfuller · 05/01/2022 13:10

It was the Tories who hiked university fees in their coalition govt not Labour!

TheresAStarmanWaitingInTheSky · 05/01/2022 13:14

I don't understand why Ruth Davidson was made a Baroness!!

Blossomtoes · 05/01/2022 13:15

@Bunnyfuller

It was the Tories who hiked university fees in their coalition govt not Labour!
It was a Labour government that introduced them in the first place, along with the aspiration that 50% of the population should be graduates. It was completely insane.
Alexandra2001 · 05/01/2022 13:27

It was a Labour government that introduced them in the first place, along with the aspiration that 50% of the population should be graduates. It was completely insane

Do you not appreciate the difference between £3000 and £9250 p.a? or the extortionate interest rates now charged? plus the removal of the mtce grant to an additional loan?

Or is that Labours fault too? its beyond parody.

Education and the work place has changed, what my mum had to know as an SRN in the 50s and 60s is what any decent HCA would be doing, now Care workers administer proscribed drugs.

Alexandra2001 · 05/01/2022 13:28

oh and it was never 50% pop. would be graduates, it was school leavers and even then, that inc those in FE.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 05/01/2022 13:32

@VelvetChairGirl

Lets face it the honours list is nothing but a list of scum and villainy and has been for decades it really doesnt mean anything.
Correct.
CloudPop · 05/01/2022 13:36

@Tanith

Same old suspects trying to re-write history and blame Labour (and Blair) for all evils while carefully whitewashing the Conservative governments 🙄

This petition is highly suspect, coming as it does during a drop in popularity for Johnson. Blair has been a useful hate figure for the Conservatives ever since their "demon eyes" poster was banned.

I'm surprised people are still falling for it.

Agreed. As many have said, do people seriously think had the Tories been in power they would have said no go George W Bush? Of course they wouldn't.
wigornian · 05/01/2022 14:36

Now people are blaming the Tories for the petition! It’s not an official Parliament petition so will achieve nothing!

I despise the man and never voted for him - always did, nothing to do with Iraq. The KG is in the Queens gift- do you know what, she knows what she is doing and knows more than we do about lots of events- I distrust him but I trust her.

NiceShrubbery · 05/01/2022 16:00

@wigornian

Now people are blaming the Tories for the petition! It’s not an official Parliament petition so will achieve nothing!

I despise the man and never voted for him - always did, nothing to do with Iraq. The KG is in the Queens gift- do you know what, she knows what she is doing and knows more than we do about lots of events- I distrust him but I trust her.

What is she doing, exactly? Why would you trust her?
Blossomtoes · 05/01/2022 16:07

@Alexandra2001

It was a Labour government that introduced them in the first place, along with the aspiration that 50% of the population should be graduates. It was completely insane

Do you not appreciate the difference between £3000 and £9250 p.a? or the extortionate interest rates now charged? plus the removal of the mtce grant to an additional loan?

Or is that Labours fault too? its beyond parody.

Education and the work place has changed, what my mum had to know as an SRN in the 50s and 60s is what any decent HCA would be doing, now Care workers administer proscribed drugs.

The amount is irrelevant. Once the principle of student loans was implemented it was only ever going to go one way.

Are you unable to see that 50% of school leavers eventually translates into 50% of the population? Seriously?

I voted for Blair and was ecstatic when he came to power but his higher education policy was deeply flawed and smacks of my generation (I’m exactly the same age as Blair) benefitting from free higher education and then pulling the ladder up behind us. I can completely see why subsequent generations are so angry with us.

madisonbridges · 05/01/2022 16:12

As many have said, do people seriously think had the Tories been in power they would have said no go George W Bush? Of course they wouldn't.
Thatcher did in fact go to war against Iraq with HW Bush. But she didn't create a false dossier of incorrect intel to justify it.

jgw1 · 05/01/2022 16:30

@wigornian

Now people are blaming the Tories for the petition! It’s not an official Parliament petition so will achieve nothing!

I despise the man and never voted for him - always did, nothing to do with Iraq. The KG is in the Queens gift- do you know what, she knows what she is doing and knows more than we do about lots of events- I distrust him but I trust her.

Likewise never voted for him, or rather his party and didn't like the way everything was to do with what would be viewed as popular in the next days headlines.

But his governments did some good things and I really don't understand the vitriol thrown in his direction. Is it that people fell for Campbell putting the best possible spin on any event and feel let down? Boris had better find a good fridge to hide in, if that's the case as more and more people realise the pack of lies he keeps spouting.

I don't really understand why anyone thought there were WMD in Iraq, that Saddam was a brutal dictator intent on destabilising the region and starting wars would have been enough for me for a reason to overthrow him if there had been a plan for what happened next. Since there wasn't such a plan I wasn't in favour of the war.

NiceShrubbery · 05/01/2022 17:15

But his governments did some good things and I really don't understand the vitriol thrown in his direction

He fawned all over Bush, lied to us all, cared nothing about the servicemen and civilians who died, then went off and made millions in his own selfish interests. And he likes to wade in with opinions "advising" current politicians when he can't discern what's flawed intelligence and what's not.

A liar and a failed leader who won't go quietly. But now will be given a knighthood, in keeping with the fine British tradition of honouring frauds and liars who can spin a good line and make people think they care.

Blossomtoes · 05/01/2022 17:31

A liar and a failed leader who won't go quietly

That’s rich when our current leader is the biggest liar on the planet. Blair isn’t a failed leader, he was a highly successful one. Both he and Major frequently comment on the current bunch of charlatans and they usually agree. We’d be a lot better off if they were heeded.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 05/01/2022 17:32

@madisonbridges

As many have said, do people seriously think had the Tories been in power they would have said no go George W Bush? Of course they wouldn't. Thatcher did in fact go to war against Iraq with HW Bush. But she didn't create a false dossier of incorrect intel to justify it.
No she didn’t - that was Major. Thatcher had been dumped by then.
DerAlteMann · 05/01/2022 17:47

It is a subject about which I could not care less.

NiceShrubbery · 05/01/2022 18:02

@Blossomtoes

A liar and a failed leader who won't go quietly

That’s rich when our current leader is the biggest liar on the planet. Blair isn’t a failed leader, he was a highly successful one. Both he and Major frequently comment on the current bunch of charlatans and they usually agree. We’d be a lot better off if they were heeded.

What's your benchmark for successful leader, Blossomtoes? Number of foreign countries invaded and innocents slaughtered?

Also Toryshambles is an embarrassingly easy target for Bliar and Major, as the Tories' true colours and corruption are all coming out in the wash now, and they can pretend they would have done better. But no doubt BJ will get a medieval accolade too, if we're still living in serfdom in 10 years' time.

NiceShrubbery · 05/01/2022 18:04

@DerAlteMann

It is a subject about which I could not care less.
But you posted here?

Please care. Everyone should care, and sign. Or we'll be saddled with this scum forever.

Eleganz · 05/01/2022 18:10

The petition relies on the idea that a knighthood is somehow something only people of good character receive rather than just an anachronistic backslap for the establishment.

madisonbridges · 05/01/2022 18:21

No she didn’t - that was Major. Thatcher had been dumped by then.
Fair comment. But she did join forces with HW to send forces to the gulf in preparation for the war and together they were instrumental in putting together the multi national coalition which ultimately repelled the Iraqis. And she did it without using dodgy intel.

luckylavender · 05/01/2022 19:03

@NiceShrubbery

But his governments did some good things and I really don't understand the vitriol thrown in his direction

He fawned all over Bush, lied to us all, cared nothing about the servicemen and civilians who died, then went off and made millions in his own selfish interests. And he likes to wade in with opinions "advising" current politicians when he can't discern what's flawed intelligence and what's not.

A liar and a failed leader who won't go quietly. But now will be given a knighthood, in keeping with the fine British tradition of honouring frauds and liars who can spin a good line and make people think they care.

I wish all our leaders were as 'failed' as Blair
luckylavender · 05/01/2022 19:06

Has anyone mentioned Zac Goldsmith yet? Lost his seat and got a knighthood as a reward. Facilitates Johnson's holidays as a reward. Is there a petition for that?