Page 4 | To be terrified for mark Zuckerberg's Metaverse?

Beechview · 29/12/2021 01:01

I think it sounds terrible from a mental wellbeing point of view. We can’t interact with our fellow human beings as avatars! Maybe for gaming or some leisure fun but not as a regular thing.
But then what do I know? I once thought cameras on a phone was silly idea.

BoredZelda · 29/12/2021 09:18

Terrified? A bit of an extreme reaction to something you can completely ignore if you wish.

Gertie75 · 29/12/2021 10:49

@Beechview

I think it sounds terrible from a mental wellbeing point of view. We can’t interact with our fellow human beings as avatars! Maybe for gaming or some leisure fun but not as a regular thing. But then what do I know? I once thought cameras on a phone was silly idea.

I've found it good for my mental health, I'm quite shy in real life and dreadful at small talk and only have a handful of friends because I feel so self conscious around new people. In virtual reality though nobody knows that my hair is falling out or that I've gained weight or that I struggle to walk sometimes so I don't have that initial barrier of worry. I've made a few friends on there and we meet up to play a bit of paintball or have a round of virtual golf all the time chatting and laughing together. It's used too for families who are scattered across the country/World, they get together and again play golf or fish instead of just using the telephone or sitting in front of the screen on a Skype call.

It's very hard to describe how immersive it is and watching videos on an ipad attempting to show what it looks like can never demonstrate what it's like to actually use the headset, it affects every sense, for instance you can ride a rollercoaster on it and it makes your stomach flip as you go down the drops because your brain thinks you're really on one and if you watch someone wearing the headset while they're on the rollercoaster you see them physically tilting side to side as they go around the track.

Someone earlier mentioned the feeling of touch on there, again the whole immersiveness of it tricks your brain, when you're using an app or game you look down and you have hands which move in synch with your own, if you reach out and touch someone's hand as they touch yours you do get an odd feeling, you know of course you haven't really touched but you do get a sensation of being near someone, it's so hard to explain.

mumda · 29/12/2021 11:01

@Pensieve

What Mark doesn’t seem to have realised yet is you can create these platforms but you can’t control them. So he might imagine some amazing VR experience when it’ll just turn into a VR porn site. Obviously don’t know the guy but can’t imagine he wants that legacy even with the money it would bring. Whatever he imagined for FB has gone way beyond his wildest dreams and is now a beast of its own that won’t be tamed.

Apparently you can get porn on the Occulus.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 29/12/2021 11:05

@Silverswirl

Erm- did none of you ever play second life?

I didn't - I always had bother finding enough time for first life.

Inextremis · 29/12/2021 11:17

To me, it just sounds like a VR experience of Second Life (which I was immersed in for years). Second Life was promoted as a vehicle for learning and business - but it ended up as a centre for online porn - so much so that they created a whole 'adult area' to try to contain it. Originally there were shopping centres for digital products you could use in the world (and pay for with real money) These were largely replaced by a catalogue which meant you didn't have to visit the various shop locations. There is/was also a fairly successful art and music scene - live music and virtual clubbing experiences, complete with live DJs.

I foresee any future metaverse going exactly the same way, because people are people, and that's how we work.

XenoBitch · 29/12/2021 11:33

@Gertie75
Same! It has done wonders for my mental health too, and also my fitness. I hate exercise, but can easily do an hour of cardio just playing certain games... and it doesn't feel like exercise at all.
My mum bought a quest after trying mine (Beat Saber convinced her). We also meet up and play Walkabout Mini Golf

Mufasa1118 · 29/12/2021 12:54

It was in the newspaper today that Paris Hilton is hosting a virtual reality new years Eve party.

I forget on which platform. But apparently she has a virtual island called Paris island.

It begins! What's next!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 29/12/2021 13:53

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy

Have just watched his video about it today. The Metaverse seems to be a virtual 'place' where you can present yourself as an avatar and interact with other people's avatars in real time, without the barrier of a screen.

I think it sounds fucking ludicrous personally. Can you imagine what meta-munsnet would be like? I spoke to my husband about it and he thinks it will just be used by smutty people to do online shagging. Like an awful Black Mirror episode. He thinks Mark Zuckerberg is terribly naive about it being a positive way to build communities.

What do we all think?

Yabu- get with it and stop being such a tech dinosaur

Yanbu - we are all doomed, Charlie Brooker style

I know someone who has worked for some years now on a previously-created online virtual world, and they go to a fair amount of trouble to make sure it does not develop into nothing but a cesspit of nastiness, and to stop nastiness when it starts. They don't always succeed in preventing it completely, but they do deal with it as swiftly as possible

I feel no confidence whatever that Mark Zuckerberg and his cohorts will either bother to do this, or be capable of doing it even if they want to. This is going entirely on their past performance with Facebook, WhatsApp and so on.

And no, I don't think for a moment that Zuckerberg is naive, or that he genuinely cares a damn about other people in reality. Remember what Facebook was set up for!

lonelyapple · 29/12/2021 14:23

Is Mark Zuckerberg even human?

XenoBitch · 29/12/2021 21:22

@Mufasa1118

It was in the newspaper today that Paris Hilton is hosting a virtual reality new years Eve party.

I forget on which platform. But apparently she has a virtual island called Paris island.

It begins! What's next!

VR events is nothing new. Some are pretty good. Karaoke events always makes me laugh though, as someone somewhere is singing on their own at home with a headset on.

Thedogscollar · 29/12/2021 21:28

This man needs no more of our money and no more knowledge of our likes, dislikes and political views.

The man is a parasite.

Thedogscollar · 29/12/2021 21:29

@lonelyapple

Is Mark Zuckerberg even human?

Every time I see him he looks more odd. Can't quite put my finger on it.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 29/12/2021 22:26

His face appears strangely unlined. This is characteristic of either a baby or someone with no feelings to cause their faces to make real expressions and cause wrinkles, or is caused by constant botox. The result is always a bit creepy in an adult over about twenty.

AnotherMansCause · 29/12/2021 22:38

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

His face appears strangely unlined. This is characteristic of either a baby or someone with no feelings to cause their faces to make real expressions and cause wrinkles, or is caused by constant botox. The result is always a bit creepy in an adult over about twenty.

Also, spending a lot of time inside. On computers, chronically ill, whatever. It's partly due to lack of exposure to the sun.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 29/12/2021 22:47

Partly; but none of the computer wizards over the age of thirty whom I know has so blank-slate a face. They have laughter-lines, or pain-lines, or something to show they have been living in their faces for three decades.

AnotherMansCause · 29/12/2021 22:54

@askingquestionsallthetime true... I have botox every few months due a health condition but it's only on my eyebrow area. I spend a lot of time in bed in the dark but only sporadically (due to pain). Other than that I try to lead a normal life, get out in the sunshine, etc to get my vitamin D & exercise etc. I'm absolutely un wrinkled & apparently don't look 40.

Maybe some people have secret paintings in their attics.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 30/12/2021 12:56

@Thedogscollar

This man needs no more of our money and no more knowledge of our likes, dislikes and political views.

The man is a parasite.

Agreed. I deleted my FB account