Is using "Father Christmas" vs "Santa" a class signifier?

[Flapjacker48]

Upper/upper middle - use "Father Christmas"

Working/lower middle - "Santa"

The "Santa" we use in the UK today is almost an original European export to American and has come back as a tackier and vulgar Santa.

Rolling eyes at people like the previous poster and ho post British when they mean " parts of England".

I’m in Ireland and have never heard anyone use Father Christmas here; it’s very firmly Santa - or Santy

Santa is not an American import, its the other way around. Irish/Scottish/Northern English/Dutch people took Santa Claus/Sinterklaas with them during periods of mass immigration to American.

I'm from NE England, he has always been Santa and even Santy.

I tend to say Santa Claus but I'm foreign and learnt English from American movies. I do say father Christmas too sometimes, but it's mostly Santa. I've heard lots of different people use both (in the UK).

There's probably a class correlation, but it's more of a regional variation to me. The perceived class list nk is probably just down to the historically higher affluence (and therefore "class"?) of the South of England.

Father Christmas = British
Santa = Americanism that is now popular in the UK

It has already been established that this is bullshit.

List nk = link !

I think its more generational than to do with class... (starts another bun fight)

I love when people from one or two very specific regions of England realise that their way is not the only way.

From West Midlands, Working class background and have always said Father Christmas. I always thought of Santa as an American thing

No. And want not an American import, though that is what they call him, but so do other countries.

We use both in our house. It's an interchangeable term.

My Grans who were born I the 1910s said Santa they were British must have been that American influence!

ODFOD class marker threads are so boring and predicable.
Poster's climbing over each other place your mark let's go.
Vulgar Santa. 🙄

[quote Flapjacker48]@dementedpixie I have a circle of Scottish friends in Edinburgh (not incomers), middle class and all use Father Christmas.[/quote]
I’ve never heard a Scot say Father Christmas, in my 60 years of being one, your friends probably just don’t want you looking down your nose at them. Have you bothered to read the billion previous threads on this topic or did you think you were having an original thought?

Santa and FC are still the same guy right? I've not missed some cultural evolution where they're supposed to be different people? Like one brings presents and ones like the bad Santa in the Netherlands who kidnaps bad children?

Oh for fuck's sake.

@Emerald5hamrock Don't read them then.

They are interchangeable aren't they? Santa sounds a bit more modern to me. I don't actually care.

I had working class Scottish parents. Father Christmas never got a look in!

@Chemenger So things that YOU have experienced is the same for everyone? Right.

@Flapjacker48 Oh I enjoy a bun fight being WC comes with the territory y'know.

It's the pp's who start these threads that I find tedious as they are specifically written to mock others.

I watched Bradley Walsh and his son last night Iceland have 13 "Santa's" called yulelads

We used both when I was growing up in the 60s. Northern parents, but we were living in the south. Everyone knew about 'Santa' being derived from 'St Nicholas' and his story afaik.

[quote Flapjacker48]@Chemenger So things that YOU have experienced is the same for everyone? Right.[/quote]
Oh come on OP. You are literally the person who STARTED THE THREAD saying that in your experience it's class based despite everyone saying you're way wrong.

Except you seem to think that you're perfectly correct and he other poster saying the same thing is completely wrong?