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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think it’s should be YABU YABR?

30 replies

blinder · 24/12/2021 19:20

Not being unreasonable is a double negative. It should be:
YABU (you are being unreasonable) or
YABR (you are being reasonable).

Long time member, sudden reallocation. AIBR?

OP posts:
blinder · 24/12/2021 19:21

Sudden realisation*
ALSO, why can’t we edit still?

OP posts:
arethereanyleftatall · 24/12/2021 19:21

Yanbu 😜

Landof · 24/12/2021 19:24

No, I think you're wrong! You are not being unreasonable isn't a double negative, it literally means 'you are being reasonable'

0blio · 24/12/2021 19:25

YANBU/YABR. I hate, hate, hate double negatives! I need to do mental gymnastics to work out what is meant by them. Or - I don't need to not try hard to understand... or something Confused

TheWayTheLightFalls · 24/12/2021 19:27

YABU, because the thing defined defines also its absence. Practically Jacques Derrida, me.

Luredbyapomegranate · 24/12/2021 19:28

YABU because the whole concept is built around the ‘Am I being unreasonable?’ question.

YenniferOfVengaBus · 24/12/2021 19:33

I think it should be YABA DABA DOO personally

blinder · 24/12/2021 19:39

@TheWayTheLightFalls I see your Derrida and I raise you some dialectics! What’s the antithesis of ‘unreasonable’?? Hmm??
IABcompletelyR, pass the Baileys.

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SilverDragonfly1 · 24/12/2021 19:45

But then it wouldn't be pronounced ya-boo and yan-boo. Ya-brrr would be quite cumbersome.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 24/12/2021 19:51

YABU - and YANBU isn't a double negative.

hugr · 24/12/2021 19:59

Well it's an answer to a question -

Am I being unreasonable?
You are not being unreasonable is the less clunky way to answer.

ShinyMe · 24/12/2021 21:31

@SilverDragonfly1

But then it wouldn't be pronounced ya-boo and yan-boo. Ya-brrr would be quite cumbersome.
Whaaaaaat? People pronounce them like that?
blinder · 24/12/2021 22:14

Slightly staggered at

  1. people saying ‘not unreasonable’ is not a double negative. It is, and it equals the positive term “reasonable”.
and 2. ya-boo and yan-boo. I didn’t realise this is how they are pronounced.
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EmoIsntDead · 24/12/2021 22:24

@SilverDragonfly1

But then it wouldn't be pronounced ya-boo and yan-boo. Ya-brrr would be quite cumbersome.
That's how I read them in my head
Omicrone · 24/12/2021 22:29

@Luredbyapomegranate

YABU because the whole concept is built around the ‘Am I being unreasonable?’ question.
This.
fourminutestosavetheworld · 24/12/2021 22:37

I don't understand what's wrong with saying 'you are not being unreasonable.'

Surely no different to 'you are not unhealthy' or 'you are not unhygienic.'

That's not a double negative.

fourminutestosavetheworld · 24/12/2021 22:38

A double negative would be something like 'I won't eat no dinner.'

If you are not eating no dinner, you're eating dinner.

MarshmallowFondant · 24/12/2021 22:41

Not a linguist.

But a double negative to me contradicts itself, the two parts cancel each other out. I didn't see nothing.

If you didn't see nothing, you saw something.

Am I being unreasonable is a closed question which requires a yes/no response. Yes, you are being unreasonable. No, you are not being unreasonable.

pictish · 24/12/2021 22:45

I always think ‘ya-boo’ or ‘yan-boo’ in my head. I know it’s a double negative but it works.

Alonelonelylonersbadidea · 24/12/2021 22:48

Good grief. It is not a double negative. I won't not do that.
I haven't not had a pie for breakfast.

You are not being unreasonable contains an auxiliary verb. It is not a bloody double negative.

littlepeas · 24/12/2021 22:48

@MarshmallowFondant

Not a linguist.

But a double negative to me contradicts itself, the two parts cancel each other out. I didn't see nothing.

If you didn't see nothing, you saw something.

Am I being unreasonable is a closed question which requires a yes/no response. Yes, you are being unreasonable. No, you are not being unreasonable.

I was trying to explain this, but gave up - you have done it better.

My example was 'I don't want no sprouts' - so you end up saying the opposite of what you intend. I think it can be done intentionally as well - 'I don't know nothing about cars' with a wink.

You are not being unreasonable is not a double negative in that sense.

LittleRoundRobin · 24/12/2021 23:07

No, 'YABR' sounds shit. What's more, as someone said....... the whole concept is built around the ‘Am I being unreasonable?’ question.

Missreginafalange · 24/12/2021 23:27

@Alonelonelylonersbadidea

Good grief. It is not a double negative. I won't not do that. I haven't not had a pie for breakfast.

You are not being unreasonable contains an auxiliary verb. It is not a bloody double negative.

This! Best explanation

It is not a double negative

smurfsss · 24/12/2021 23:33

It's not a double negative. Nice try though OP.

Thereareliterallynonamesleft · 24/12/2021 23:40

I also read them as yaboo and yanboo Grin.
Also, it’s not a double negative it’s litotes. Yes, I know I’m a wanker.