..to think society thinks assault on police is acceptable?

[Felix125]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10341407/Police-officers-attacked-80-times-day-2021-new-figures-reveal.html#comments

I know its the Daily Mail - but the comments at the bottom are unreal?

YABU to even think Daily Mail’s comments are representative of wider society.

YABU.

HINT: there is more to society than the Daily Mail comments section.

The penalties for assaulting a police officer are less than for standard assault, it’s a separate offence. So actually yes society does literally deem assaulting a police officer as a lesser offence (so more acceptable, or at least less unacceptable?) than assaulting anyone else.

That's a very small vocal but niche group (who show a somewhat low level if rational thinking if they are commenting there ). I cannot think of anyone who would think attacking the police would be acceptable. Or who teach their dc that.

You can dislike the police but they are still human beings behind the uniform and attacking them isn't ok. It's not a widely accepted behaviour.

The police think its acceptable to assault us, especially women! We literally can't trust anyone let alone coppers, look at what's happened in the UK this year alone. They made their career choice, that's their problem.

They made their career choice, that's their problem.

@LemonViolet

The penalties for assaulting a police officer are less than for standard assault, it’s a separate offence. So actually yes society does literally deem assaulting a police officer as a lesser offence (so more acceptable, or at least less unacceptable?) than assaulting anyone else.

This isn’t correct. There is an offence of assaulting an emergency worker (which includes police, firefighters, paramedics etc) which carries a higher sentence than common assault. The court is obliged to increase the sentence when the victim is an emergency worker assaulted during the course of their work, and to specify exactly how the sentence has been increased

No, I don’t think most of think that it’s acceptable to assault a policeman, a nurse, doctor, fireman etc.
But then most of us don’t think it’s acceptable to assault any other human nor any animal.
Sadly those that find it ok to assault one, think little of whom or what they are attacking..

@Broads93

The police think its acceptable to assault us, especially women! We literally can't trust anyone let alone coppers, look at what's happened in the UK this year alone. They made their career choice, that's their problem.

We don't think it's acceptable to assault other people - where are you getting that from?

Not in the society I live in, and if it's normal where you are, then I'm sorry for you. Abhorrent behaviour to attack anybody, but especially emergency service workers.

@Broads93

The police think its acceptable to assault us, especially women! We literally can't trust anyone let alone coppers, look at what's happened in the UK this year alone. They made their career choice, that's their problem.

How pathetic.

You only have to look at the outcry over the killing of Andrew Harper to know that most people do not think it's acceptable for police officers to be harmed or killed at work.

However, if you're the sort of person who operates outside of the law, getting into a scrap with a police officer is probably part and parcel of your lifestyle.

Why do so many Daily Mail readers think society in general is represented by the twats who post comments on there?

Try reading a different newspaper OP, it might broaden your mind 🙄

@LemonViolet

The penalties for assaulting a police officer are less than for standard assault, it’s a separate offence. So actually yes society does literally deem assaulting a police officer as a lesser offence (so more acceptable, or at least less unacceptable?) than assaulting anyone else.

You're correct! I think it's disgusting

Over the period of covid we've watched he'd s lot of rubbish tv and watching some of the 'fly on the wall' type police shows there seems to be a lot of people, particularly young people, who view the police with contempt.

@Broads93

The police think its acceptable to assault us, especially women! We literally can't trust anyone let alone coppers, look at what's happened in the UK this year alone. They made their career choice, that's their problem.

You’ll not be calling them if you’re the victim of a crime then I take it?

You're a police officer and you read the Mail? That is worrying.

walking past a protest my eleven year old was shoved by a riot officer on Saturday. And yes I have emailed a formal complaint. And no, we weren't taking part in any protest, we were trying to walk past (as an aside those on the march were very polite and stopped to let us cross roads etc).

I am in no way condoning assaulting anyone while they are doing their jobs but after my experience in the capital I am unsurprised some do have that attitude.

Compared to what happens in America those comments are pretty tame. There have been at least two cases in the last year where US police officers have been prosecuted for incidents where suspects have been killed, one is in the news today where a female officer accidentally shot the person she was trying to apprehend when she mistook her gun for her taser. Generally in America the perception seems to be if officers kill a suspect they are automatically in the wrong.

Assault is never ok, but considering how awful the Met are and events that happened this year it's perfectly understandable that people are angry and distrustful of the police.

Only getting that (penalties being less) from a police officer who has been assaulted many many times and incredibly peeved about how the offences are treated. Maybe things have changed (good!!!). Anecdotal observation is though that they also tend to charge as assaulting a police officer rather than ABH/GBH etc that the same injuries would be prosecuted as for a member of the public (with higher penalties).

Anyway it’s great that posters here don’t feel this way, sad that that’s not the impression that the officers on the ground that I know get from the public they deal with every day.

@Broads93

The police think its acceptable to assault us, especially women! We literally can't trust anyone let alone coppers, look at what's happened in the UK this year alone. They made their career choice, that's their problem.

Have to agree with this tbh.

I have no sympathy at all for the police.

You’ll not be calling them if you’re the victim of a crime then I take it?

There would be no point, as they probably wouldn’t come out anyway, as they are too busy upholding the patriarchy in one form or another.

Even if they did come out, I have little to no faith that I would be listened to, believed and appropriate action taken,

This is precisely the issue.

I think there is a small (but not that small!) part of society whose experience of the people is entirely negative,who have seen the police abuse, threaten and manipulate evidence against their friends and family.

I'd like to say it's not all police and it's certainly not in all cases, but if you are poor and struggling in an area of high deprivation and social issues, the police are not your friends.

Obviously no one can condone violence against them, but I fully understand the view of some of the people I support in my work who "hate" the police and see them as the enemy.

My experience of dealing with them (very rarely) in my own life is very different to what these very vulnerable young people experience.