..to think society thinks assault on police is acceptable?

[Felix125]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10341407/Police-officers-attacked-80-times-day-2021-new-figures-reveal.html#comments

I know its the Daily Mail - but the comments at the bottom are unreal?

I do also think that 'the police' are not a faceless and amorphous blob that is the same everywhere. My experiences of the police in the UK have been uniformly positive - when my late husband threatened to kill me whilst drunk and enraged, they were literally there within 4 minutes and they took him away, took my statement, made sure I and the DDs were OK and got their DV support team to contact me the next day.

Police training in the UK and in my native Netherlands is far, far more rigorous and in depth than it is in the US. I think that goes a long way towards explaining the rates of the wrong people being shot and killed, for starters.

However, it would be good if the police everywhere were more transparent in situations where they got it wrong. Mind you, that applies everywhere - look at what happened to the whistleblower at the West Suffolk Hospital (this is my patch).

@VladmirsPoutine

The police have it their lives work to assault, degrade and harass people for merely existing so I imagine being on the receiving end of that is a natural consequence.

Being assaulted by thugs should not be a consequence of police work and there is something very wrong with people who think like that. Their job is vital and they should have public support, not the public acting as cheerleaders for criminals.

The police think its acceptable to assault us, especially women! We literally can't trust anyone let alone coppers, look at what's happened in the UK this year alone. They made their career choice, that's their problem

Ridiculous. Some police officers have assaulted women - all police officers do not.

We need good police officers and prison officers. We need to weed out the bad officers - but we need to support the good ones. The police and prison officers are keeping us safe and put themselves physically on the line for us. We need many more of them. Making a career choice in public service doesn't mean you should be assaulted for it.

We need to weed out the bad officers

I think we'd have a better chance of extracting every fish in the sea using a colander.

@Avaynia

Considering what they get away with (“mistaking” a gun for a taser 🙄 Yeah how dare they be treated as wrong for murdering people ffs), considering how quick the “good ones” are to defend or remain silent about the bad ones, and considering you 1. actually get punished for hurting the police unlike the other way around and 2. punishments for hurting them are worse than if you hurt someone else, because they expect to be treated like gods, I don’t feel sorry for them.

And no. I wouldn’t call them if I was a victim of a crime. They’d probably show up and shoot me.

Your discussing American police.

YABU

Actually I think this country is far too accepting of the police being heavy handed. So many videos of multiple officers pinning down a single unarmed person as they scream in pain having their wrists twisted etc. Any 'resisting' is clearly because their body is naturally fighting against bones that feel like they're going to snap. But lots of people see the police as infallible it seems.

Yes, the weak justice system is the problem.
I personally think the judge should throw the book at anyone assaulting police or those forced to deal with scumbags throughout the working week.
It would be a deterrent.
I always like to see those using threatening language towards the police charged.

There about 100,000 police officers in the UK aren’t there? The majority of them are normal decent people with families and mortgages to pay like everyone else.
Wayne Couzens was an unprecedented case.
In any large organisation, here are bad apples.
I once served in the Army. Some people did some pretty stupid things that made the media, got them sent them to jail.
But that was the minority , the majority of them were good , brave people.

@VladmirsPoutine

The police have it their lives work to assault, degrade and harass people for merely existing so I imagine being on the receiving end of that is a natural consequence.

Honestly what a vile comment

@Hearwego

There about 100,000 police officers in the UK aren’t there? The majority of them are normal decent people with families and mortgages to pay like everyone else. Wayne Couzens was an unprecedented case. In any large organisation, here are bad apples. I once served in the Army. Some people did some pretty stupid things that made the media, got them sent them to jail. But that was the minority , the majority of them were good , brave people.

Exactly so many narrow bkinkeredViews

@LampLighter414

YABU

Actually I think this country is far too accepting of the police being heavy handed. So many videos of multiple officers pinning down a single unarmed person as they scream in pain having their wrists twisted etc. Any 'resisting' is clearly because their body is naturally fighting against bones that feel like they're going to snap. But lots of people see the police as infallible it seems.

I can assure you they are not screaming as their bones are going to snap. Our police force is very timid compared to many on the continent and they command more respect

Doesn't happen here. The actions of a few doesn't mean the whole lot are rotten. There are some extremely good police officers trying to do their best amongst covid austerity and lack of resources - oh wait like every other emergency service

@JohnSmithDrive

Police do turn a blind eye to their colleagues though. Whenever a video surfaces where a police officer has been less than professional there always others there who did nothing to stop it. Even knowing they're being filmed doesn't stop them.

I have been horrified on Twitter at senior officers following openly misogynistic and victim blaming accounts. The latest scandal which is described as a ‘witch-hunt’ exemplifies this.

I've always been spoken to and treated nicely by Police Officers as an adult except the one that spiked my drink at a bar but we won't go there right now.

The last time (at a former workplace), the officer was relaxed, polite and happy, then as he turned to see the reason for the visit - a 'friendly' community one in a school - he changed instantly started bellowing 'SHUT UP - if you've got a problem with that, you'll have a problem with ME', approaching the kids as though he was squaring up for a fight.

They were a bunch of 13 and 14 year old boys of Caribbean and West African heritage and all they had done was walk up whilst chatting amongst themselves. The same kids who had held the door open for me when I walked into work that morning, helped carry boxes of paper upstairs to the photocopier and were a pleasure to run a needlework and knitting club for. And he spoke to them not just as though they were pieces of shit, as though he only needed me to turn my back for an instant and he'd be battering them.

I doubt they will ever forget that.

And the ‘one bad apple’ story is just embarrassing and insulting.

John Aptor? Look at the Twitter feeds about this. The ex cop accounts plus the misogynistic fan club are destroying any credibility of the police.

Your discussing American police.

Police are police. And others have mentioned American police as well which is why I commented specifically about the taser incident.

The reality is that if you are in a bad road traffic incident, it's likely the first one on the scene to help you to get out will be the police. Likewise if your child is reported missing, they will be the first ones to search through the night for them. If you are being held hostage by a knife wielding maniac, they will be the first ones in to help get you out safely. Police officers regularly risk their lives for us, some lose their lives in the 'line of duty'.
Sure there are bad police officers, but some of the people they risk their lives for are bad! Police come from a cross section of society, like teachers, nurses etc, and society is a mix of people.
Hard to read some of the vitriol on here directed at the police.

@Avaynia

Your discussing American police.

Police are police. And others have mentioned American police as well which is why I commented specifically about the taser incident.

There is no comparison between American and British police. You seemed to imply that how the worst of American officers behaves is, naturally, how British police behave because police are police. This identification with what happens across the Atlantic is troubling and dangerous in spreading distrust.

Of course there are some bad and corrupt police officers (as there would be in any profession), but there are also numerous hard working and conscientious police officers. My dh specialises in child protection and his teams work have resulted in dangerous paedophiles being locked up, and his team have advocated for many victims of dv to be supported, find housing etc.