To be annoyed by neighbours

[JaceyJames]

I've lived in my flat for 15 years and never once had a complaint about noise until my new neighbours moved in a year ago.

Since them, we've had a party twice. Both times they came over screaming sad swearing at us (never met them).

We play music through Alexa, so doubt it could be THAT loud.

Tonight us was my son's 18th birthday party. Six guests. Did some karaoke. Woman next door comes over literally screaming and shouting at me and was so aggressive and rude I feel shaken.

It was 11.45 on a Saturday night and the second time in a year I've played music and both times they did this.

A couple of months back they had a huge party with music and shouting and screaming outside in the front garden until 3am and I didn't complain I just let them enjoy their night.

Tonight I said to the woman "you have parties just louder with more people and I don't complain" and she said that was my perogative and I should have some respect.

She was do aggressive and rude, I'm really shaken

OP,

If you report her she will have to disclose this information if she ever sells.

Report her.

Ah Alexa, the new sound of summer.
The lovely sound of some pissed up twat shouting 'Alexa, play 'some crap music', which poor old Alexa cant find, but dont worry just keep shouting out even more random tunes until you settle on Ariana Grande, again

Repeat until process until about 1 in the morning, remembering to shout louder and louder and chose even more obscure tunes Alexa cant find

YANBU simply because they have louder and longer parties. I bet if you went round there screaming at them during those they'd tell you to fuck off.

Tell them you'll stop when they do.

I hate having to listen to other peoples music and terrible singing through the wall. You live in a flat so I’m sure they heard you way more than you think.
She sounded pretty pissed off so was at the end of her tether. She could have been polite and a bit nicer but who knows what she’s going through.
I don’t see why other people should listen to all your crap music when they want peace in their own home.

She sounds batshit and completely unreasonable. And so do the people on here who are saying that you are U or your party must have been louder than you say...

[quote rattlemehearties]Hmm karaoke after 11pm really isn't acceptable op, don't play the victim.

The government and councils consider noise nuisance as being between 11pm - 7am
www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisances-how-councils-deal-with-complaints[/quote]
A one off (or 2 in this case) is fine & no action would be taken. It's regular noise & nuisance that's not acceptable as it will effects your daily life.

@OneRuleForThem no, the point is if music, noise or shouting is outside and you gave a windows open then obviously you can hear it. Inside we have concrete walls between us. Two seperate buildings

@Littlebee90 yes, I agree other people's music is very annoying. But...

1. If you play your own you should not be upset at others for doing the same.

1. If you live in a city and the house next door puts on music once or twice a year, I think that's reasonable. We all have to live occassionally and I didn't begrudge them a celebration

3 if it bothers you, you can come and ask politely before you get to "the end of your tether" and get verbally abusive

My neighbours are f*wits.

They moved in during lockdown 1 - proceeded to have a drinking party the first weekend with chanting and stomping of feet and for the next umpteen weeks after. When we complained they said it was "only Alexa" and apologised except they actually have surround sound. Their windows are right next to ours so between open windows, and the noise coming through the joists we've been driven nuts. They dont think its loud but we do.

Every time we have complained "nicely" and got nowhere.

I don't give a toss about what other people do, I don't see why I should have to deal with it. All this "you live in a city" stuff is total bollocks spouted by selfish gits who want to do what they want, when they want and sod everyone else.

And telling people in advance "so they can make other arrangements" Really, so its an expectation that your neighbours be driven out of their own home?

...brown paper bag and breathe. So p**sed off.

@PearlclutchersInc

They've never complained nicely.

You can take whatever view you want. Mine I'd if you don't live in a detached house it's reasonable from time to have music noise or for your neighbours to celebrate. Thus I don't complain if noise bothers me occassionally.

If you take a different view and think no neighbours should ever have music or people over, then you should follow the same rules yourself.

They obviously think there's one rule for them and another for me.

Jacey I'm pretty considerate actually. Not to mention over lockdown I dint have people in and out of my home like yo-yo's.

Outside of lockdown my expectations are lower - but not low enough to be tolerant of pounding bass through a shared wall on a regular basis (and I don't do it myself).

Its fair to say that what's loud for some isn't for some but consideration isn't a positive character trait it seems.

That aside its a shame that your neighbour wasn't able to complain politely.

"Karaoke" is not "music."

But I agree that if she had a party until three a.m., then she can STFU. If another neighbor came over, however, I would stop immediately.

@PrincessNutella regardless of me thinking she had a cheek, we did stop immediately, and would have done had she asked politely too.

My annoyance Isn't her asking us to stop our noise, although I think it's hypocrital, it's that due didn't just ask politely and felt it was okay to come over and talk to me like dirt.

Karaoke til 1145 is v antisocial. So is a party til 3am. I wouldn't want to live anywhere near either of you.

It's possible although they are in the next building that they can hear noise but immediate neighbours can't, bit the point is, I'm not a mindreader.

Well they clearly could hear it or they wouldn’t have come over to say something.

@PriamFarrl yes, but how would know that if they didn't tell me? The people who lived there for 14 years before them say they never heard me and I never heard them either.

I don't mind, FWIW, them habing loud parties to 3am if it's once or twice a year. We're disturbed by noise all the time where we live as its a busy city and there's been a construction site opposite for two years, and everyone in the neighbourhood uses loud appliances. They all seem to love leaf blowers early on Sunday mornings which we don't love. But we aren't complainers. We accept we live in a busy area, we all have a set of earplugs and we wouldn't begrudge anyone a birthday party.

It's up to her if she feels differently, but then I'd expect her to follow her own rules. If our flat becomes a place we can't have a birthday party now and again then I'd not want to continue living in it. Two of my house members are autistic and HATE noise. We are very quiet people. Mid forties, one very quiet son who never has friends over.

I think the world is quite miserable enough without begrudging people opportunity to celebrate from time to time as long as they're generally considerate.

Anyway this is by the by. I've pondered this all day and whenever the circumstances I think it's reasonable to ask someone to turn it down instead of jumping right into shouting and swearing. Absolutely no need. I'd never have spoken to her like that no matter what the situation. I was just shaken up last night as it was so off the charts.

OP, you keep referring to your old neighbours who apparently couldn’t hear you. Maybe they were older, or had hearing problems, but either way, the neighbours that live there now can hear you playing music. But as long as it’s in the “approved” hours, they can shout and scream all they want. I’d just slam the door in their face personally.

@OneRuleForThem yes, it's because had the previous neighbours ever said they heard noise, I'd have been notified that noise travelled. As it was I've spent over a decade thinking neighbours couldn't hear music. First I heard different was this woman shouting at me. So the point is I wasn't knowingly disturbing anyone.

As I said, we really do hardly ever play music. We tend to listen to music on our headphones. We don't even really watch TV :)

I am not even going to bother to open the door if she ever comes here again. And next time she has music on or people over, I'll go round and give her a dose of her own medicine.