Are people really getting their drinks spiked and being spiked by injection without any other crime being committed?

[ALightThatNeverGoesOut]

Or are they just more drunk than they thought (given that young people in the UK drink huge amounts of alcohol) and maybe got a flea bite on their leg?

[quote accentdusoleil]@shouldistop was it Manchester ? Have you heard of Reynhard Sinaga? [/quote]
No, Glasgow. I haven't heard of them.

People are mistaken about a lot of things. Reports are then investigated to see if there’s any evidence.

I see.

People are especially very often mistaken when they're drunk.

And just to clear up any confusion on your part @DismantledKing, a victim statement is actually evidence.

What’s your solution then @ALightThatNeverGoesOut - should we limit drinks?

Injection panics are a constant trope over the past couple of centuries; it’s one of those things that occasionally surface, cause a panic, then settle down again until next time it resurfaces. The Victorians used to have similar reports in their newspapers.
Interesting point from this article:

‘David Caldicott, an emergency medicine consultant and founder of the drug-testing project Wedinos, was particularly emphatic: “There are a couple of things that are disconcerting about this story. The technical and medical knowledge required to perform this would make this deeply improbable. It is at the level of a state-sponsored actor incapacitating a dissident, like the Novichok incident.’

www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/10/injection-spiking-is-likely-very-rare-so-why-are-we-so-scared

@MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry

And just to clear up any confusion on your part *@DismantledKing*, a victim statement is actually evidence.

Yes, but that evidence is then tested if there is enough evidence to go to court. There used to be claims about Satanic abuse about twenty years ago, people used to claim that it happened to them. It was disproven as a hoax.

I had my drink spiked with nothing else happening. I was definitely spiked as it was confirmed by hospital blood tests, a male friend who drank the suspected drink also felt rotten AND I only had 2 drinks. The A&E Dr said people sometimes do it when they get a new batch of whatever they use to see how quickly it takes effect etc.

@shouldistop

My brother was spiked years ago and nothing happened to him - except a frightening black out night. He thinks it was meant for the woman he'd been chatting to though as who really bothers to spike a man. In a way he was glad he'd drank the drink as it would have been a lot worse if the intended victim had.

My friend’s boyfriend, before he met her, had his drink spiked in Spain and was raped in an alleyway. It does happen to men, by predatory men.

But I agree that for the most part when I hear people say “I think I was spiked” they’re just embarrassed that they drank too much and vomited in the pub.

Interesting @DismantledKing I wonder if other surges in reporting coincided with general public paranoia/unrest/unease.

I don’t doubt that sometimes people have their drinks spiked by someone slipping something into it. Why would people try to actually inject drugs into someone else though? As it says in that article, it’s improbably difficult.

Yes, but that evidence is then tested if there is enough evidence to go to court. There used to be claims about Satanic abuse about twenty years ago, people used to claim that it happened to them. It was disproven as a hoax.

Who said anything about going to court? op asked if there was any evidence. I said the victims reports.

Not op- pp

My friend was drugged, I know she was as she a million percent was not drinking alcohol, we were together from pre drinks and everytime at the bar. No one believed her either and said it was her own fault for being too drunk. No doubt some people misjudge how much they have had or its affecting them more than usual, but I don't believe this is always the case.

If anyone is interested, there an history of ‘needle panics’ in this month’s Fortean Times. This picture is from an early 19th century French version, where women reported being stabbed with needles (then poisoned needles) in Paris, then throughout France.
These things have a long and interesting history.

@MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry

I don’t think there’s any evidence of people being injected

The victims reports are evidence in themselves. Or do we just not count a thing a victim says unless they have CCTV footage to prove it?

I think in the majority of cases they have heard of this happening and then bump into someone or something, find a mark and then their imagination does the rest. I don’t think they lie exactly it’s more a collective hysteria

Three men have been arrested for spiking by injection and/or drinks this October. Its real. It was in all the main newspapers.

Very likely people do genuinely believe they have been injected. It is an unlikely scenario though.

@Pixiedust1234

Three men have been arrested for spiking by injection and/or drinks this October. Its real. It was in all the main newspapers.

Interesting. I look forward to reading the toxicology reports.

@Pixiedust1234

Three men have been arrested for spiking by injection and/or drinks this October. Its real. It was in all the main newspapers.

Arrests alone aren’t proof it’s happening. Convictions are needed for that.

These are the newspaper reports concerning the three men.

My mate was spiked. Interestingly 3 similar looking girls within the group were spiked with LSD. 1 was epileptic and ended up in A&E due to medication ( tox screen confirmed LSD). One became massively paranoid due to reaction with her prescribed meds.

Police thought it was just to observe the reaction in them.

I have name changed for this.
My 19 yr old, 6 foot 5 ds was spiked about 3 months ago. He had the puncture mark on his arm. He had only been out for an hour and had only had a couple of drinks. He ended up in hospital as he couldn't walk or talk and was projectile vomiting. The hospital were convinced he was spiked. Blood tests were done both by the hospital and police doctor. Nothing showed up. He ended up on the resuscitation unit as his blood pressure reached critical levels.

After he was spiked he called home as he knew something was wrong and we arranged for my brother to pick him up. A very kind couple of men helped him to get to where my brother was picking him up as he was losing consciousness. We do wonder if he would have been robbed or worse if he hadn't got help. Several other cases came into the hospital that night, all with similar symptoms. Very scary - but definitely spiking not alcohol.

@ALightThatNeverGoesOut

Very likely people do genuinely believe they have been injected. It is an unlikely scenario though.

So, should we limit drinks?

I was spiked recently, I had been drinking water and ended up in a&e due to being drugged.