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New house - new neighbours - new parking woes

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PeeAche · 16/12/2021 14:21

Moved into the house of our dreams this summer - but didn't realise parking would be such an issue.

We have a "driveway" that is wide enough to accommodate 3 cars. It is L shaped so 2 cars would be parked in a line and 1 car off to the side IYSWIM.

We don't have 3 cars though, we have 2. And we thought it would be perfect. But after we moved in, we realised that space 3 (the one off to the side) is impossible to get into, due to the narrow entry way into the drive.

Because spaces 1 & 2 are back to back, we only really get use out of 1 space.

The people that lived here before us were very elderly and housebound.

So the solution is to whip out the gate post and make it all wider at the front. Ideally we would also increase the dropped curb.

Parking on the road should be no issue. It's a tiny village with no shops, no school and no attractions. Just a line of houses and every single house has a drive - apart from the house opposite. The house opposite have 3 enormous cars and nowhere to put them. The road is narrow.

Their preference is to park them right outside our house - which would be no problem, except they hem us in on all sides. They park so that each end of their cars are overhanging our dropped curb by just a few mm. The third car, they park directly opposite our drive. It's not technically an illegal parking formation but it does mean that it's a 6-point-turn getting onto or off our own driveway. Every day. It's driving me batty!!!

I have tried having a friendly word and they just said "we've lived here for 22 years" and nothing else. No apology, explanation or owt. Just that. And then they walked away.

I realise this is a very small thing to be complaining about. But I am at my wits end after missing my own midwife appointment last week because they had totally blocked me in!

The other thing is (although the speed limit is 30), people average around 50mph on our road and I can't see round the tunnel of car they have created. It's like the riskiest creep-n-peep ever. And it's an almost daily occurrence that some vehicle is bombing it along and has to do an emergency stop because I'm sat in the middle of the road, trapped between 3 cars, doing my dodgy 6-point-turn 😅

If I call the council and show them how dangerous it all is, how likely is it that they will let me increase my dropped curb by another foot or so? Or apply some double yellows? Or am I in fantasy land? And would this be the biggest Dick Move ever to my neighbours - who would then have to shuffle along the street to the next spots?

We do try to nab at least 1 of the spots with 1 of our cars, if we can - and leave a good foot of space so that the driveway isn't all hemmed in. But we work full time and the cars are in constant use. Whereas our neighbours seem happy to leave theirs there for days on end. We can't both be parking on the street all the time as we have young kids to load in (and I'm preggers). Plus my car is electric so I need to be able to charge it.

Our house is quite wide so there are a total of road 3 spaces along our frontage. They could shuffle down a bit and not use the one that hems in our drive!

Oh, for the record, I drive a Golf so it's neither a big nor small car. DH drives something similar but not electric. I'm not trying to manoeuvre some angry tank!

So, the Q is:

AIBU to contact the council and try to get the curb lowered / permanently change the parking situation?

YANBU: This sounds fine and safe and your neighbours will get over it.
YABU: They've done this for 20 years and now you think you should shake it all up? It's just parking. Get a life. Etc.

Opinions from both sides welcome! I can submit diagrams if this helps... I have the day off.

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BellaVita · 16/12/2021 14:23

Before anyone answers a diagram is required, it’s Mumnset Law 😆

MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 16/12/2021 14:26

Well you’ve nothing to lose by asking the council so go for it. I would also approach the neighbours again, explain that you missed your midwife appointment because you were blocked in and ask if they could park further back from the dropped kerb.

MyAnacondaMight · 16/12/2021 14:29

YABU to blame the neighbours’ (mostly) legal street parking for what is actually a problem with your driveway.

YANBU to apply to the council to enlarge or move the dropped kerb.

Alternatively, can you landscape your drive/front garden to create better parking? Might be cheaper than adjusting the kerb. I’m struggling to imagine a layout where you can’t get two cars on and off a space that holds three cars. A diagram may help!

xILikeJamx · 16/12/2021 14:30

Get onto the council and get your kerb dropped. Don't worry about the neighbours.

Maybe suggest to the council during the process that some double yellows may be in order...

Lockdownmummy · 16/12/2021 14:30

We extended our dropped kerb for a very similar reason. It was very satisfying but not cheap!!!

Beamur · 16/12/2021 14:32

I would see if you can get the dropped kerb widened. Your point about lack of visibility to pull out into the road is one I would highlight.
Given your neighbours lack of consideration for you I wouldn't lose any sleep over any changes this might require for them

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 16/12/2021 14:35

I'd ask the council for the longer dropped kerb but I wouldn't be sure the neighbours would honour it by the sounds of it - do you have any other access?

Hillarious · 16/12/2021 14:36

Widen the dropped kerb.

Anjo2011 · 16/12/2021 14:37

Very similar situation here , but with double drive. Neighbours park opposite so we have no turning room. Therefore if we have to drive in, we can’t get out but we can’t reverse in as there’s no room to turn. Solution is only one car in the drive and we park opposite. It’s not ideal but parking problems will always be that , a problem. Yes definitely ask the council. You have as much right to access your drive as they do for parking legally on the road.

ApocalypseNowt · 16/12/2021 14:38

Here for the diagram...

Funmum34 · 16/12/2021 14:39

The problem also is that just because you have dropped the kerb doesn’t mean they won’t park there as it’s still public highway and you don’t own the road, if they’ve been parking there for 22 years they’re unlikely to stop otherwise when you spoke with them they would have been more accommodating & as it isn’t technically illegal to park over a dropped kerb just a nuisance then maybe you’re better off going to the council with safety concerns & see if they’ll double yellow it

Beamur · 16/12/2021 14:45

I think I'd reconfigure the drive so you have 2 spaces side by side if you have room for that, so your exit onto the road is twice as wide.

crowsfeet57 · 16/12/2021 14:53

as it isn’t technically illegal to park over a dropped kerb

Umm yes it is.

PeeAche · 16/12/2021 14:54

Diagram!!

So, to answer some queries, we cannot have side by side parking - the hedgerow featured belongs to our next door neighbours.

Space 1, 2 and 3 are our drive. We could also have another where the 2 trees are, but it's unnecessary and I like the trees because my kitchen window is there.

The three blobs marked "car" are the ones belonging the house opposite.

We have no other access.

New house - new neighbours - new parking woes
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Geekygeek · 16/12/2021 14:54

You can get the council to paint on a white “H” mark on the road to denote no parking. There will be a £££ cost, only £100 here.

When they paint it, you can encourage the crew to make it nice and generous. Maybe a cheaper initial option than drop curb.

MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 16/12/2021 14:56

I can’t see diagram Sad

PeeAche · 16/12/2021 14:56

@Geekygeek

You can get the council to paint on a white “H” mark on the road to denote no parking. There will be a £££ cost, only £100 here.

When they paint it, you can encourage the crew to make it nice and generous. Maybe a cheaper initial option than drop curb.

Ooh. This sounds good. What is this kind of marking called??
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Seemslikeagoodidea · 16/12/2021 14:58

@Beamur

I would see if you can get the dropped kerb widened. Your point about lack of visibility to pull out into the road is one I would highlight. Given your neighbours lack of consideration for you I wouldn't lose any sleep over any changes this might require for them
Exactly. We have a neighbour who creates similar problems, I feel your pain.

YANBU, you asked for some consideration but it fell on deaf ears, so do what you can to make life easier for you.

Funmum34 · 16/12/2021 14:58

crowsfeet57
It’s a parking offence so you can a ticket but you can’t get prosecuted for it, I know this as I live very close to a school & constantly have this issue & police are not interested but traffic wardens will give out a ticket if they catch them but that’s rare

Billybagpuss · 16/12/2021 15:01

My DF is on his local council and they occasionally have budget for things like this so it is definitely worth asking if they could put in double yellows.

gogohm · 16/12/2021 15:02

Contact the council and explain about the overhanging and that you cannot get out of your drive. They have various options to put markings including no parking on one side which we have

writingabout · 16/12/2021 15:08

I'd get the dropped kerb widened. You'd probably need to widen the driveway a bit, depending on how big the entrance is already, but ask the council. In my area they charge £50 to come out and give advice, and I think it was around £800 to get our dropped kerb widened, but well worth it for the hassle it's saved. If you did this the neighbours wouldn't have much grounds to complain, because there's no reason why you shouldn't alter your frontage so you can get both your cars on the drive easily.

The other thing would be to start parking on the street in 'their' spaces and see how they like it, but that would be antagonistic...

2bazookas · 16/12/2021 15:10

Golly,. I hope their cars parked on the road don't get damaged in the night.

Mrstwiddle · 16/12/2021 15:11

Can’t see diagram

RB68 · 16/12/2021 15:15

I would park outside my own house - prob OH car if yours is electric and needs access to charger. THey are being unreasonable but I suspect its an estate and no roadmarkings etc. If you do get dropped curb extended ask for white line with stops each end to cover the area meant to be left free.