To think Mumsnet is no longer the bastion of free speech that it was

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I've noticed a number of threads that I've been following have been deleted lately. The latest one was about a mother saying she had been 'cancelled' by her children.

I even had my own thread pulled down about a month or so ago with absolutely no reason given as to why.

Have Google or Facebook bought out Mumsnet and I just didn't hear about it?

@coogee

And does nothing to endear the English to the rest of the world who already think they are uptight snobs.

Because only English people post on MN.

I did wonder if someone would be able to make such a nasty sweeping statement about other nationalities or would that be a naughty step crime?

@Babycham1979 or @Washingtonirving79 (or whichever name you prefer), your post was not "perfectly innocuous" but was deleted because it was a personal attack on another poster.

@Dontforgetyourbrolly

People get really nasty and personal if you take a different stance to them - especially over covid .

Not just covid though, every topic has an 'acceptable' view, vary from that and it gets reported.

@Babycham1979 I don't know why your post was removed and certainly didn't report it. It's not my job to thoroughly review mumsnet from all angles of the free speech debate. I have no idea how much racism they allow or don't allow. I'm annoyed because posts I've written or agreed with on an important issue effecting women have been censored unfairly. Btw. I don't read the mail and I'm not a racist.

Not just covid though, every topic has an 'acceptable' view, vary from that and it gets reported.

There's definitely some validity to that. I wouldnt say it's always the case but in some cases it is.

wouldn't

I'm not a bararian.

Oh, for heaven's sake.

barbarian

Free speach and voicing opinions is only allowed as long as the majority agrees with it.

Yep

Yep

What happened to - I disagree with what you're saying but I'll defend to the death you're right to say it?

Well, that's my post gone. Can't be long for the thread as a whole now!

This is why I find myself coming here less and less.

What on earth was wrong with your lost OP? I can't remember what it said? I'm starting to hate mumsnet.

@Franca123

What on earth was wrong with your lost OP? I can't remember what it said? I'm starting to hate mumsnet.

It's like they were itching to prove my point.

[quote Franca123]@Babycham1979 I don't know why your post was removed and certainly didn't report it. It's not my job to thoroughly review mumsnet from all angles of the free speech debate. I have no idea how much racism they allow or don't allow. I'm annoyed because posts I've written or agreed with on an important issue effecting women have been censored unfairly. Btw. I don't read the mail and I'm not a racist.[/quote]
I absolutely wasn't accusing you of being a racist. My point was that there will always be strongly-held opinions that offend or upset others. None are objectively or automatically 'right' or 'wrong', and you can't expect special treatment for your own brand of identity at the expense of others.

That said, open discussion is a good way to work through such issues, but MN isn't and wasn't ever the place for it. They've always been highly censorious, and it's only the fashion for different types of thought-crime that changes day-to-day. Same shit, different flavour.

By the way I read through around ten pages of one of the threads mentioned before it got zapped with still another thirteen pages to read. So can anyone fill me in? Did we ever hear what JK Rowling is supposed to have said that was so bad?

We never did and probably never will.

@Babycham1979 I not asking for special treatment. I'm asking for equal treatment. I don't think I have an 'own brand of identity' whatever that means? Although I would agree with your final paragraph. Mumsnet is very much in to fashionable believes and not a great place for free discussion.

I was literally kicked off for stating a fact that you will find in any anatomy/biology/physiology text book in the world. There was no hate speech or even personal opinions stated. I came on one day to find my password no longer worked and couldn't get back on the site. I never received any form of communication from them at all to let me know why I was kicked off for what was a factual post with no expletives, hate or anything else.
Obviously truth offends some sensitive types and my post riled them for whatever reason.
I find it disgusting that women on a predominantly woman's site are muzzled for speaking the truth.

@RVN123

I was literally kicked off for stating a fact that you will find in any anatomy/biology/physiology text book in the world. There was no hate speech or even personal opinions stated. I came on one day to find my password no longer worked and couldn't get back on the site. I never received any form of communication from them at all to let me know why I was kicked off for what was a factual post with no expletives, hate or anything else. Obviously truth offends some sensitive types and my post riled them for whatever reason. I find it disgusting that women on a predominantly woman's site are muzzled for speaking the truth.

What was the fact?

Lol. Guess!!!!!

I 'misgendered' a man who I heard on the radio (man's voice) who had a man's name. Ffs. Now that is just taking the piss.

@Franca123

Lol. Guess!!!!!

If it's what I think it is, surely not. There are loads of posts on here about what makes a man a man and a woman a woman.

They seem to have decided you may no longer point out that unspeakable fact. I also had a deletion fir the same thought crime. Mumsnet think they can re-educate women folk to fall in line and accept the be-penised women as women.