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Generational inequality- seedy effects

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EmilyisLivingItUp · 11/12/2021 11:53

We all know this generation are financially way worse off than us with tuition fees, house prices etc. I was speaking to some of the women in my office and they revealed that three of their daughters have only fan accounts, one of their poses nude to be drawn at hen dos .
Is this the disgusting side of generational inequality? I can’t help feel a bit sick at men and women in their 40s/50s leering at half naked 20 year olds because of their financial state. AIBU

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Ss1970 · 11/12/2021 17:56

@IsItReallySeedy

Not surprisingly I've name changed for this....

I'll keep it a little vague as to what it is I do, as I know mumsnet will not agree with it but hey ho....!

I choose to go into this line of work because I am a single mum and uni student. Student loan and grants only cover my very basic expense where I live, and childcare grants only really cover childcare for the time I am studying (be it at home or physically in uni). There's just me (DDs dad has her sporadically when he wants to Disney dad for a day or so) so it's not like I can work in a pub on an evening, if I wanted to work during the day I have to fit it around awkward uni hours and find child care and I simply don't have anyone who can provide regular child care for me.

Pre DD I have worked "normal" jobs so it's not a case of being work shy or trying my make money doing sweet FA.
So my options are that me and DD live life on a budget that simply doesn't allow for any extras and treats or I can do this. It allows me to be "online" for an hour or so when I chose l, I have no travel or extra expenses and I earn more per hour than I can ever hope to, though I do hope to have a more acceptable job after I graduate.

I guess basically, it provides an income that has no effect what so ever on my family time, nor causes me child care issues, and massively improves my standard of living and stops the money worries.

Do I think its exploitive? The men (and occasional women) who look at me don't make me feel exploited, I chose how much I charge for the service and I am comfortable I can chose what I am prepared to do... the companies that i provide the service through however, make me feel massively exploited. They earn more than I do! However they are the only company I have found that allows me to do it as anonymously as possible...

Very interesting story. Everything isn’t black and white in life, you had to do this and it sounds like it’s benefitted you.
onceandneveragain · 11/12/2021 20:18

@Ozanj

OnlyFans is the equivalent of Classifieds / flyers put in bathrooms or phone booths. A certain type of person will always be attracted to sex work. That doesn’t mean it’s more or less acceptable for this generation than previous ones!!
I disagree with this. Before people usually did things like that out of necessity and it had a grim, dirty association. You'd rarely see lawyers/professionals doing sex work on the side and if you did have to do it you'd try to do anything you could to keep it from your parents/friends. Whereas now as pp's have posted it's completely normal for a lot of young, middle class, people and nothing to be ashamed of.

I can sort of understand it - on OF etc the woman is in control to some extent. She can decide who she speaks to, who she sends additional pics/vids to. Like a pp said she can decide if she ever shows her face or just does foot work etc. I can see the argument that taking photos of your feet for an easy £5k a month, or serving a few drinks with your bum out and people admiring you and showering you with compliments could feel less degrading than earning pennies wiping someone else's bum as a nursery nurse or adult carer, or being looked down on and spoken to like shit working in a shop or as a waiter/ress.

IsItReallySeedy · 11/12/2021 20:25

Whilst I am not on OF, I do have a pretty high degree of control. I don't show my face, I decide exactly what I do show. If someone is rude or unpleasant to me they are blocked. In a grotty nightclub I'd have to tolerate unpleasant remarks my whole shift as the manager would be reluctant to remove them as long as they were spending.
I don't exactly wake up excited to "go to work", but then the normal jobs I've had havnt always been the sort of thing I wake up excited to do.
On the odd occasion I tell people what I do, I liken it to when I was self employed as a cleaner. I don't love it, but I don't dread it and I work just enough to pay for what I want and I leave it at that. Except its far better paid than cleaning so I have to work far fewer hours to achieve the same aim.

The only down sides to what I do is the stigma and of it could ever hinder my career when I graduate.

EllaVaNight · 12/12/2021 07:17

An attractive man took his clothes off and let’s me rub oil on his body and everyone involved had fun. I doubt he enjoyed you touching him. And how do you know he had fun? He consented because he was paid. I could never touch someone like that without genuine enthusiastic consent.

EightWheelGirl · 12/12/2021 15:36

I know a guy who did this. Plenty of business from the middle aged, middle class women in a posh market town. He had to be fully naked.

EightWheelGirl · 12/12/2021 15:38

Doh, meant to quote the buff butler post.

Lightbulbmoments12 · 12/12/2021 16:49

There is at least some demand from all social classes. I’m my opinion this post highlights how our views change with having children

When I was at University some of the students groups raised funds through naked calendars which I had no problem with and I even purchased some for the fun of it.

Now that i have been a mother for some time had my son posed for something similar for his University club I’d be very upset thinking about who would be buying it, what age they would be, if I knew them and other connotations.

I think a lot of this posts responses depends on the audience.

Contactmap · 13/12/2021 11:25

Whereas now as pp's have posted it's completely normal for a lot of young, middle class, people and nothing to be ashamed of.
How very Mumsnet to specify middle class.

CatJumperTwat · 13/12/2021 11:35

An attractive man took his clothes off and let’s me rub oil on his body and everyone involved had fun.

He didn't have fun. He probably felt equal disgust and pity at how pathetic you are.

CatsArePeople · 13/12/2021 15:55

Social media.
Older generations exchanged sexual favours without internet.

CatsArePeople · 13/12/2021 17:52

Whereas now as pp's have posted it's completely normal for a lot of young, middle class, people and nothing to be ashamed of.

Nothing new for middle classes to be involved in sex trade.

Hellokittyninja · 13/12/2021 18:08

It’s not new, I also went to uni in the 90’s and there were girls and boys ‘escorting’. This was in London and they were mostly privately educated. They just saw it as easy money, plenty were also selling drugs for extra income. I worked in the West End clubs and saw all sorts. Definitely not more seedy now, just more out in the open cos of the internet and phones. I’d wager there are less people doing that sort of thing now at my uni, than there were then.

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