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AIBU to not understand the outrage over the government’s so-called Christmas party?

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OneRuleForThem · 07/12/2021 22:33

I feel like this is only an issue if people automatically followed guidelines like robots. We were “told” not to visit our own families over Christmas. Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year.

It seems people are up in arms over the fact that Downing Street allegedly (do I have to say allegedly?) had a Christmas party and flounced the “rules” without social distancing. My only reaction is…And? And so? So what? Did anyone expect the government NOT to do something like this? I don’t know why people are up in arms over it tbh. It’s not like this government is brand new to people and they didn’t have prior information that this government backtrack and “do as I say not as i do” ALL THE TIME.

I really don’t get why people are so outraged by this. My main reaction is…why did you listen to them in the first place expecting them to be some kind of moral leaders? AIBU?

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musicviking1 · 08/12/2021 02:05

It was the smirk on his face when asked about it that really pissed me off.

liliainterfrutices · 08/12/2021 02:10

@Rose789

To be honest OP you sound just as much of a twat as the people that attended that party. You broke the law so you could have a merry Christmas cos fuck the government? Everyone could have done that. The vast vast majority of people chose not too because they are not absolute selfish fuckers like you
This. And the OP also has the fucking gall to sneer at people who were trying to protect others and call them robots. There are some people who actually do deserve the politicians we all have to put up with.
Saoirse82 · 08/12/2021 02:27

Just because I'm not surprised doesn't mean I can't be angry about it. So by your logic the government can pretty much do anything and just because you expect the worst of them then you're fine with it Hmm. I wouldn't put anything past this government but it doesn't mean I'm OK with it because I already know they are a bunch of cunts.

Mycatisthebest · 08/12/2021 02:46

@MasterBeth

Fucking hell, OP, the reason I didn’t break the rules last Christmas wasn’t because I’m some gullible goody-two-shoes desperate to follow government rules like you appear to suggest, but because the new Covid variant was spiralling out of control, with a direct threat to tens of thousands of lives.

Yes, I am FUCKING INCENSED that the government set the rules and broke the rules and I am angry , if not surprised, that people like you were happily breaking the rules too, breezily unconcerned if you had Covid or spread Covid, as long as you had a lovely family Christmas.

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Lovelydovey · 08/12/2021 03:53

I didn’t flout the rules and missed out on a final Christmas with my DP who both passed away from covid at the start of the year. We decided not to break the law both to protect my DP and wider society.

I have utter contempt for those who thought that they were above the law.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 08/12/2021 03:53

You’re so edgy and cool OP! A real anarchist breaking laws and looking down on the ‘sheeple’, who obey laws and want to live on a non corrupt society where people care about others and our institutions. Yes who cares whether the government are liars and corrupt. Blatant government corruption always works out for the best in other countries.

Let’s all break laws so we can be just as cool as you. How did your coolness start? Smoking round the back of the bike sheds whilst bunking off maths and sneering at the swots? Wow, so edgy.

coatofsomanycolours · 08/12/2021 04:19

I feel like this is only an issue if people automatically followed guidelines like robots. We were “told” not to visit our own families over Christmas. Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year

In my case we did not visit our own families over Christmas because my husband is clinically extremely vulnerable and after most of the year shielding with him, I was not prepared to risk his life by mixing with others.

One thing I realised early on, was that my husband's life depended not just on our own actions but by the decisions of other people/strangers. Some people, like yourself OP, broke the rules. Others do not follow social distancing or wear masks, others break the rules of self isolation. And as we do not know who has followed the rules and tried to keep as safe as possible and who has refused to follow the rules because they do not like being told what to do, then our only option was to stay home without visitors. You felt that seeing your family was the right thing to do for yourself and them and I am glad you have a lovely time. Potentially however you could have caught and spread the virus, and again the risk involved for you was worth taking. But had any of my family met you, you could have potentially passed the virus onto them, and in turn it could have been passed on to my husband should he have been in contact with them. So the only real safe option for him was avoid everyone, because the decisions of people like yourself could have put his life at risk. Even if that decision was the right thing to do for your family, and even though you seem to look down on people like myself who chose to stay home, I still stand by my decision. However I am not a robot, and my husband most certainly isn't. I disagree with most of what the government says and does. BUT it is our right to make what decisions seem best for us, just as it is for you.

Of course the past 18 plus months have been difficult, shielding for endless months and not seeing anyone, missing them dreadfully and longing to escape. But the hardest thing is to be looked down upon by people like yourself. I do not understand why you could make your own decision on what to do at Christmas, and I would never look down on you for that or call you names, but you appear to think others who make different decisions are somehow lacking. I am an intelligent and independent person, and stand by the choices we made last Christmas, please don't try and belittle that decision, made purely because it was the only way to ensure my husband's safety. And nothing will ever be more important to me that that.

I hope you have an equally Happy Christmas this year too.

Adviceneeded1213 · 08/12/2021 04:35

YABVU.

PhilCornwall1 · 08/12/2021 05:05

I could only get angry about it, if I followed the rules. I didn't, so have no right to shout about what they did.

Is anyone really surprised that this happened though.

Monty27 · 08/12/2021 05:17

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garlictwist · 08/12/2021 05:23

I also find it very hard to care about this. It was last year for a start. I am not bothered what other people do or don't do vis a vis "the rules", it's up to them and I will make my own decisions.

Monty27 · 08/12/2021 05:24

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Clumsyvolcano · 08/12/2021 05:30

It’s not just about ‘’why did you listen to the government?’’

People did because not only was it LAW
BUT also, what ever the government says or does, we were still in a serious pandemic and I suspect most people didn’t want to risk their vulnerable relatives getting ill/dying or hospitals struggling when a new more infectious strain was rearing its ugly head and most hadn’t been vaccinated?

The point isn’t about not listening to the government, it’s about the fact that the government should have followed the rules as well, not that everyone else needn’t have bothered.

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ThePoetsWife · 08/12/2021 05:33

People were being fined for having parties - eg students got fined £1,000.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 08/12/2021 05:39

Well slow clap for you not having a single vulnerable family member OP. I'm assuming that's the case seeing as you've ignored so many posters explaining exactly why they stuck to the law. Surely nobody would be so selfish or stupid to have still met up with family if any of those family members were vulnerable

rwalker · 08/12/2021 05:43

My impression was they'd were working there together anyway and just stayed.
No different than having your dinner hour.

LizzieSiddal · 08/12/2021 05:59

My impression was they'd were working there together anyway and just stayed.
No different than having your dinner hour.

Does your dinner hour include canapés, wine and a secret Santa?

PlumManor · 08/12/2021 06:04

I’m sick and tired of this government doing exactly what they like, when they like whilst simultaneously expecting the little people to follow their rules and then lying about their actions.

Is their no end to their corruption.

They are never held accountable for anything.

Lwoj · 08/12/2021 06:08

If many of us followed your lead and didn’t listen to them the deaths in January would have been astronomically high. As it was with the majority abiding by the rules the couple of day relaxation in them meant we had a massive spike in January and a lockdown that lasted months. The day of the party we buried my husbands gran. A complete matriarch who deserved a send off with all her family. Instead she died alone in a care home and 12 people attended her funeral (space in church) with no wake. I think you know deep down you are being unreasonable.

sweetheartyparty · 08/12/2021 06:09

What about those who held parties and were fined £10k? They did the same thing as the government but very different outcomes. It's the contempt for the electorate that really angers me. They brought in the rules for everyone else to follow but they had no intention of following. Its absolutely disgraceful

Peaseblossum22 · 08/12/2021 06:12

@OneRuleForThem maybe you could afford the £10,000 fine if caught breaking the rules but many couldn’t. How nice to be in a world where you don’t need to care about breaking the law.

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/12/2021 06:13

I think what I find slightly frustrating about all of the outrage is that this shithole of a government have lied outrageously from the start - and have lied about much bigger and more important things. Boris in particular.

Yes, it's absolutely disgusting that they were pissing it up having a jolly together when people were prevented from seeing loved ones, and trying to do the right thing to protect each other.

But is this the worst thing the government has done? Not by a long stretch. I'm frustrated that there's not been the same outpouring of anger for some of the other really awful stuff they've done.

They're currently in the process of royally fucking Northern Ireland over and there's just a bit of a collective "meh" about that.

I could put a long list together of the outright and blatant lies they have told. I'm happy that people are finally calling them out and not letting it drop - and I do understand the anger. But I also think that there are much, much worse things that Boris and co have done - and continue to do.

I can only hope that this might open some people's eyes to the corruption in our current government. And I don't say that lightly.

LittleChoCho · 08/12/2021 06:14

This thread has the same energy as Rees Mogg declaring the Grenfell victims should have used common sense and ignored the firefighters' advice.