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AIBU to not understand the outrage over the government’s so-called Christmas party?

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OneRuleForThem · 07/12/2021 22:33

I feel like this is only an issue if people automatically followed guidelines like robots. We were “told” not to visit our own families over Christmas. Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year.

It seems people are up in arms over the fact that Downing Street allegedly (do I have to say allegedly?) had a Christmas party and flounced the “rules” without social distancing. My only reaction is…And? And so? So what? Did anyone expect the government NOT to do something like this? I don’t know why people are up in arms over it tbh. It’s not like this government is brand new to people and they didn’t have prior information that this government backtrack and “do as I say not as i do” ALL THE TIME.

I really don’t get why people are so outraged by this. My main reaction is…why did you listen to them in the first place expecting them to be some kind of moral leaders? AIBU?

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Onlyhuman123 · 12/12/2021 15:16

@Rose789

To be honest OP you sound just as much of a twat as the people that attended that party. You broke the law so you could have a merry Christmas cos fuck the government? Everyone could have done that. The vast vast majority of people chose not too because they are not absolute selfish fuckers like you
^totally this
mikulkin · 12/12/2021 16:27

[quote OneRuleForThem]@youvegottenminuteslynn
But the “law” was: you can’t visit your families at Christmas. That is a crazy law. I don’t understand why people agreed to adhere to it. That is illogical to me. My family is more important to me than obeying that “law”.[/quote]
Where do you draw a line what is logical or not? The thing is people usually follow the law, whether they personally find it logical or not. If everybody decides to use law according to their understanding of what is logical there will chaos. I am surprised you don’t understand it.

And there was a logic behind this particular law. You could have had COVID and spread it to your family, they could have spread it further putting at risk other people and NHS. What is so difficult to understand about the logic behind this law in the middle of major pandemic? Apparently having a nice Christmas with your family was more important to you.
So you were lucky and didn’t have COVID and didn’t spread it to your family, that doesn’t mean that you made the right decision.

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 17:24

@Nowayoutonlydown
If it was unsafe for us, and our concern for putting additional pressure on the NHS, why was it safe for the MPs to have parties? How was it safe for them?

This is literally my whole point

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 17:25

@Cornettoninja
OneRuleForThem I’m surprised you keep coming back to this thread with this particular username tbh.

It’s my own thread so that’s why I am “coming back” to it, because I am getting alerts that people are replying.

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 17:26

@Parker231
Why is it all about you?

It’s not, but you said me visiting my family caused people’s deaths

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 17:28

@nanbread
Are you hard of thinking? People have explained repeatedly why on here.

I haven’t read anything that explains it to me adequately so far in regards to the question I’m meaning

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 17:29

@oklets

OP you seem very pleased with yourself for being so clever to ignore the guidelines/break the law. Except it's not actually clever, it's just not giving a shit about other people.
No I am not pleased with myself at all??? I just did what I liked, I am sorry for people that didn’t but I am not especially pleased by myself, or smug over others.
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Parker231 · 12/12/2021 17:31

[quote OneRuleForThem]@Parker231
Why is it all about you?

It’s not, but you said me visiting my family caused people’s deaths[/quote]
Over last Christmas there were major legal restrictions which included households not mixing . This was to try and limit the spread of Covid. The instructions were clear but you decided you knew better.

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 17:33

@Parker231
That day I only visited and the only people I saw was my own family.

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Cornettoninja · 12/12/2021 17:46

[quote OneRuleForThem]@Cornettoninja
OneRuleForThem I’m surprised you keep coming back to this thread with this particular username tbh.

It’s my own thread so that’s why I am “coming back” to it, because I am getting alerts that people are replying.[/quote]
Yes, but you’re not saying anything new are you? You’re not even putting it in a different way.

You’ve said your piece, clarified you still don’t see what all the fuss is about so what more is there to comment?

Pumperthepumper · 12/12/2021 17:50

[quote OneRuleForThem]@Parker231
That day I only visited and the only people I saw was my own family.[/quote]
But what would have happened if you had taken covid and killed one of them?

That’s why I obeyed the rules - not out of some blind loyalty to Boris fucking Johnson but because I thought it was safer. And who knows if it would have been or not?

Suspiciousmind20 · 12/12/2021 18:02

Oh dear good. IHRTFT but you are def BU.

Most people did follow the rules. People didn’t attend funerals of loved ones, didn’t visit loved ones in hospital, didn’t see friends and family. Made huge sacrifices. Whilst members of our elected government deemed it below them to do the same.

You had a nice normal Christmas. Bully for you. Your sense of entitlement would sit well in this current Government.

oklets · 12/12/2021 18:19

Well you obviously are pleased with yourself, otherwise why are you 'sorry' for people that didn't do what they liked? I followed the laws because anyone with a handful of brain cells and an ounce of compassion for others could see what needed to be done. I'm not one bit sorry about it and hearing about secret Christmas parties doesn't make me any sorrier. I'm just glad I'm not a selfish twat.

Dishwashersaurous · 12/12/2021 18:25

Question. Why do people obey the law?

Answer. Because they are law abiding and believe that complying with the law is th fundamental of a civilised society.

Or they don't want to be caught and get a £10,000 fine

Idontbelieveit14 · 12/12/2021 18:36

People died alone in hospital….but it was ok for them to have a party? That’s what is making me outraged!

longwayoff · 12/12/2021 18:54

Bozo's going to tell you some more things you will have difficulty in understanding at 8pm tonight OP, so put the tv on and concentrate Very Hard. Perhaps get a friend to watch with you and explain very slowly why you should abide by any rule changes. Or just go to the pub and ignore it and get some info from Mr Wetherspoon.

Walkaround · 12/12/2021 19:03

@OneRuleForThem - a bit bizarre of you not to see the problem with the attitude that following the rules is for idiots.

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OneRuleForThem · 12/12/2021 19:04

Gosh sorry, I just can’t understand the reaction to this.

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jgw1 · 12/12/2021 19:05

@OneRuleForThem

Gosh sorry, I just can’t understand the reaction to this.
Have you heard of community and society?
lightisnotwhite · 12/12/2021 19:05

@Idontbelieveit14

People died alone in hospital….but it was ok for them to have a party? That’s what is making me outraged!
So let’s get this straight. You think relatives should have bern allowed into hospitals to visit their dying family members? All those different households mixing in a place with extremely vulnerable people. Or do you agree they shouldn’t have?

Christmas parties in workplaces are nothing like hospitals. How are you linking the two?

Pumperthepumper · 12/12/2021 19:16

@OneRuleForThem

Gosh sorry, I just can’t understand the reaction to this.
Is that true? Do you really not understand?
jgw1 · 12/12/2021 19:17

Christmas parties in workplaces are nothing like hospitals. How are you linking the two?

Aren't hospitals workplaces?

I think what you are saying is that people who work in offices can have parties, whereas the little people who work in hospitals, care homes and the like shouldn't.

WrongWayApricot · 12/12/2021 19:21

Steady on guys, OP has a point. Next time I'm late I'll just drive through red lights as well as green lights. I'm a very careful driver so I won't be directly responsible for anyone's death but I will be home in time to have dinner with my family, and spending time with my family is more important than any law. Anyone waiting at a red light and making themselves late is just a mug, if emergency services and the queen can do it, why can't we? After understanding OPs logic I realise hard shoulders are just traffic free lanes for those of us that aren't sheeple.

longwayoff · 12/12/2021 19:23

And, definitely OP, as already mentioned, get a copy of Jon Ronson"s The Psychopath Test as a Christmas present to yourself. It will be illuminating for you.

Suspiciousmind20 · 12/12/2021 19:28

lightisnotwhite

I think you have —deliberately— misunderstood. It’s obviously the unfair nature of people sticking to the rules on something as emotionally painful as not visiting a loved one in hospital or not being visited in hospital and the frivolity of breaking the rules for a totally unnecessary party.