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AIBU to not understand the outrage over the government’s so-called Christmas party?

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OneRuleForThem · 07/12/2021 22:33

I feel like this is only an issue if people automatically followed guidelines like robots. We were “told” not to visit our own families over Christmas. Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year.

It seems people are up in arms over the fact that Downing Street allegedly (do I have to say allegedly?) had a Christmas party and flounced the “rules” without social distancing. My only reaction is…And? And so? So what? Did anyone expect the government NOT to do something like this? I don’t know why people are up in arms over it tbh. It’s not like this government is brand new to people and they didn’t have prior information that this government backtrack and “do as I say not as i do” ALL THE TIME.

I really don’t get why people are so outraged by this. My main reaction is…why did you listen to them in the first place expecting them to be some kind of moral leaders? AIBU?

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Enzbear · 08/12/2021 16:16

Goady op of the year award 👏

I'll tell you what annoys me the most
"We're all in this together" I hate that term even more now.
"Stay safe" the government managed to scare the living daylights out of my 85 year old mum who then was too frightened to join us for Christmas day. So had Christmas dinner all alone.
Whilst the government who obviously weren't one bit afraid of the virus were having secret Santa parties.
My friend didn't get to spend the last Christmas with her parents 86 and 81 who were in fairly good shape at the time but both passed away during the year. (Neither of COVID)

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OneRuleForThem · 08/12/2021 16:26

@dollbaby868

I think I’m most surprised that so many people actually listened to their advice and did what the government said

This is a good question OP. Literally everyone I know still saw their families regarding Christmas and had a normal celebration like usual! It's only on MN have I seen people saying they stayed at home and didn't have a Christmas and blahblah. Not sure why anyone would actually listen to the government it's literally the blind leading the blind.

I agree with the poster who said people were listening to the government at the time so to see the government themselves weren't even following the rules makes them feel like mugs. I think that's it 100%!

I also agree with your last update in regards to the hypocrisy of some posters saying they'll be celebrating Christmas this year regardless of the rules this year.
It just doesn't make sense

Thank you @dollbaby868 I agree 100% with your post. I am not Being goady as suggested by others, but I honestly can’t understand why people don’t see it like how you’ve said it in your post, it doesn’t make sense to me either.

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OneRuleForThem · 08/12/2021 16:28

@julieca

People are angry because they could not attend funerals, visit family in hospital, or in care homes. You couldn't "flout" these rules, you had to comply. No one likes being treated like a total mug, and that is what the government has done.

But that wasn’t what I said. I have already said - and repeated - im not talking about funerals, care homes or hospitals and things like that, I’m talking about visiting family, at home, last Christmas. I’m not sure how much clearer I can say that other than typing literally that - which I’ve already done repeatedly.

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OneRuleForThem · 08/12/2021 16:29

Maybe it’s just me and I’m not seeing it the way the majority of people are, I just don’t understand, but some people on the thread see it the same as I do so it’s not just me

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notawittyname1954 · 08/12/2021 16:29

Apart from the fact it was the law, wasn't it common sense to not mix with people in case you passed something on to vulnerable people. I would never forgive myself if I passed something which caused someone to be ill. We had no vaccine or even tests at that point so I made the decision to stay away from the family in case even before the legal restrictions came in. It just made sense that you could be asymptomatic and it was an airborne virus so mixing with others could infect them. To enjoy one Christmas you could have sacrificed many more with one of your loved ones. It is completely tragic to think that people didnt get to hold someone's hand or kiss them goodbye and Downing Street at that point were partying. YABVVU.

StoneofDestiny · 08/12/2021 16:33

I'm angry at the idiots who voted this dishonest, disreputable and dishevelled bunch of shysters into government. They have proved to be the worst example to a population, encouraging by example others to break the law. Look what this led to in Trumps America - just consider where it's leading us now.

Iggly · 08/12/2021 16:34

@OneRuleForThem

Maybe it’s just me and I’m not seeing it the way the majority of people are, I just don’t understand, but some people on the thread see it the same as I do so it’s not just me

We followed the guidelines.

The problem was that the guidance changed so late in the day, that people had already made Christmas arrangements and didn’t want to go back on them despite the changes so they went ahead.

however all of the socialising that the government did during lockdown was outside of the Christmas period. Outside of the Christmas period, the restrictions were much stricter - they were relaxed for that short period around Christmas Day.

That’s why it is fucking outrageous- people couldn’t do anything (we had virtual team events for example) and they were having parties!

vickyp0llard · 08/12/2021 16:34

I would never forgive myself if I passed something which caused someone to be ill.

Really? Before covid it was completely normal to go to the office with colds, flus and chest infections, in fact you were called workshy and a pisstaker if you stayed off work for a cold. No-one felt guilty about it or blamed others for giving them an illness - it was just a part of life.

OxfordQuestions · 08/12/2021 16:35

@Rose789

To be honest OP you sound just as much of a twat as the people that attended that party. You broke the law so you could have a merry Christmas cos fuck the government? Everyone could have done that. The vast vast majority of people chose not too because they are not absolute selfish fuckers like you

Totally agree. You sound unbearably smug, OP.

julieca · 08/12/2021 16:41

@OneRuleForThem I know you are not talking about funerals, etc. But can you not see why people are angry that they couldn't attend a funeral and the government were having a Christmas party?
Remember this was not on Christmas day. It was the weeks surrounding it when many people were badly affected by the restrictions.

julieca · 08/12/2021 16:42

@vickyp0llard

I would never forgive myself if I passed something which caused someone to be ill.

Except most decent people didnt visit their elderly vulnerable relative if they had the flu or a bad bug. They stayed at home. Maybe you went about spreading your germs to anyone though?

vickyp0llard · 08/12/2021 16:45

Except most decent people didnt visit their elderly vulnerable relative if they had the flu or a bad bug. They stayed at home. Maybe you went about spreading your germs to anyone though?

At what point did I mention elderly vulnerable relatives? Obviously not. However all my colleagues went to the office with colds and coughs, otherwise they would not get paid and would get called lazy.

SexyBoris · 08/12/2021 16:47

Mr Johnson can’t do right for doing wrong with some people. The mad left want him out and they’ll pick on anything to stick the boot in, even a bloody party that happened a year ago! Half the people whinging would have broken the rules themselves

eastegg · 08/12/2021 16:49

@appleturnovers

My only reaction is…And? And so? So what? Did anyone expect the government NOT to do something like this? I don’t know why people are up in arms over it tbh. It’s not like this government is brand new to people and they didn’t have prior information that this government backtrack and “do as I say not as i do” ALL THE TIME.

So your attitude is "well we know they lie all the time so why do you care that they lied"..? Knowing they lie doesn't make it any less infuriating that they lied. What sort of weird morality is that? So people who are known for lying get to carry on lying without anyone caring? Does that mean we should only be outraged when someone who is usually honest lies?

Well said.

Seemssounfair · 08/12/2021 16:49

I’m not laughing at anybody??? I feel sorry for people who sacrificed a Christmas and now this has come out. But I don’t understand why people did and are now shocked that the government didn’t.

If you still don't understand after all the posts very clearly explaining you are either a GF or missing any morals whatsoever.

Don't dare feel sorry for me I don't need it from people of your ilk.

Iggly · 08/12/2021 16:51

[quote julieca]@OneRuleForThem I know you are not talking about funerals, etc. But can you not see why people are angry that they couldn't attend a funeral and the government were having a Christmas party?
Remember this was not on Christmas day. It was the weeks surrounding it when many people were badly affected by the restrictions.[/quote]
^This

People have clearly lost their minds.

I remember having months of never going into the office, only being able to socialise in bubbles of 6, sitting outside in the freezing cold to socialise. Doing zoom drinks with colleagues. Etc

eastegg · 08/12/2021 16:51

@SexyBoris

Your username shows us just how much weight we should give to your judgment.

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SexyBoris · 08/12/2021 16:53

@Iggly why don’t you fuck off? You really should, you know

Iggly · 08/12/2021 16:55

[quote SexyBoris]@Iggly why don’t you fuck off? You really should, you know[/quote]
😂

VikingOnTheFridge · 08/12/2021 16:55

@SexyBoris

But none of them will have been in a government telling other people to. Assuming Rishi isn't moonlighting here obv.

notawittyname1954 · 08/12/2021 16:55

@vickyp0llard I understand what you are saying about going to work but I am talking about my family who happen to consist of elderly and pregnant people amongst others so I was concerned for them. Also going to work is slightly different from going to a party. I also stayed away from my elderly relative if I got a cold because it could be much worse for them.

notawittyname1954 · 08/12/2021 16:56

A minor ailment for me could be so much worse for someone older. Not being virtuous about it at all. it just seemed the right thing to do at the time

jgw1 · 08/12/2021 16:56

[quote tallduckandhandsome]@fakereview but that’s the point - they gave the police the go ahead to behave like that to the public whilst partying themselves, with police probably outside protecting them.[/quote]
I understand the independent police complaints authority has been asked to investigate why the met did not stop the party.

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