Feel like I’m one of the few thinking this way

[Electricdreams22]

If you’re posting to abuse me and call me a toddler/selfish/sim etc for not sharing your opinion, don’t bother as you’ll just get reported.

I respect that everyone has their own views and anxieties

I’ve started feeling fed up lately and unsure as to why people who’ve had 3 vaccines now feel the need to impose their own lockdown as such, I know people who’ve decided to limit contact, not going to Christmas parties etc.
I don’t know what the point was of having 3 vaccines if people are expected to carry on restricting their life?

People saying ‘Oooh I hope we don’t have another lockdown soon” whilst it’s clear they would readily accept and are probably hoping for one.

I hate how people who don’t want the vaccine have been made to feel, and I imagine that a lot of these people claiming to be so altruistic didn’t have the flu jab, I certainly didn’t. I also imagine they didn’t self isolate every time they had the flu or similar.

I feel like I’m almost alone with these thoughts and I don’t know who to turn to. Would just be interested to hear from like minded people.

I think everyone should be masked if possible. I can also understand wanting to be paid twice!

It very much depends on your own personal circumstances how much you want or need to restrict your movements so to speak.
If you have a family member having Chemotherapy for instance, you would want to protect them however possible so they could continue with their treatment. If that means not going to a few parties then so be it.

This is so tedious and it's all been said a thousand times over the months so I don't know how anyone can still be struggling with it. Vaccination doesn't prevent people from catching or spreading Covid. Vaccination reduces the risk of hospitalisation and death. That's "the point" of getting the jabs, OP.

If you catch Covid, you have to undertake a period of isolation. If you are part of a household with 2 or more members and you catch Covid from each other, testing positive a few days apart, then the period of time before all family members are free from isolation and can all go out together is potentially very long indeed. It is obvious that in the run up to Christmas in particular, when people are hoping to see family and have important events planned, that some will want to reduce their exposure in order to minimise the risk of catching Covid and having to miss out on things they are looking forward to. Some people will prioritise meeting up with friends, which seems to be the case for you. Your friends seem to be prioritising other things, as is their right (either that or they can't be bothered and it's a handy excuse).

I won't be going to my work Christmas party because it's not important to me and I'd rather skip that than attend, catch Covid and not be able to do the things I actually want to do with the people I actually want to see. I also have a relative nearing end of life in a care home and I want to reduce my exposure so that I can make sure I'm able to see them, which obviously requires a negative LFD.

It's nothing to do with being sheep or being led by fear or fucking loving a good lockdown or any of that shite. It's about taking practical and sensible steps to ensure the least amount of disruption and weighing risk based on personal circumstances.

I'm Triple jabbed, but I have several underlying issues. I haven't stopped 'being careful' because IF I get Covid, I will not do well (as the NHS keep reminding me).

I'm fed up of the sneering & faux confusion on here.

Being triple jabbed is sensible & I hope if I do get it, it'll save me from ICU, but I'm not going out & going to parties,crowded spaces to keep other people happy! It's my health & my life, so that's what I'm prioritising over other peoples enjoyment of parties 💁🏻‍♀️

@Electricdreams22 I hear you op, I am in Ireland and our children from 9 are now wearing masks in schools and kids are not supposed to do social stuff with friends outside schools, swimming lessons being cancelled.... our health system is v v weak here so the spotlight and blame is being put on kids instead of our government. I think we have over 90 percent vaccinated and plp so zealous on rules, masks everywhere...

The point of vaccines is to ensure we only see 1/32th of the people in hospitals/ ICU that we would otherwise as the unvaccinated are 32 times more likely to die from Covid. That’s the point. So people can get cancer care etc

Because I care about the NHS.

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Brilliant post @Outlyingtrout, I don't think some understand what the vaccines are for. They don't make you invincible or put some sort of virus defence bubble around you.

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Hmmm, I'm another who has had 3 now including booster. The jury is still out on how effective the vaccine is with the recent new strain. So I'm happy to sit tight, do what I normally do ie work, family, grocery shopping etc but I still don't feel inclined to go partying until we really know what we're up against.
If other people want to, that's fine. Think OP is making a bit of a fuss about nothing really.

I agree that Omicron may have changed the landscape.

I don think a lot of people have failed to understand that covid is now endemic, and that there will always be infections in the community.

I am being careful but I'm also living comfortably.

And I notice those lovely posters who seem to think the vulnerable should just stay home are out again so they can get on with their partying lifestyle.

Better hope you don’t have an underlying condition you didn’t know about until you caught COVID eh?

You do what you need to do and let others do what they need to do. I know quite a few people who've suffered with covid caught whilst out drinking and living their lives that is their choice like it was my choice to be more cautious due to the nature of my work and go and buy them essentials whilst they were very poorly.
Everyone's experience throughout is different and this is probably what's driving each persons reaction to what is going on around them, there is no right or wrong answer to it very much each time their own.

Vaccines only REDUCE the risks. They don’t eliminate it. Same for masks, hand washing, hygiene, open windows, etc.

The “point” was always to reduce the number of hospital admissions (particularly winter ones), not to allow everyone to go back to how it was in 2018.

Life expectancy will have decreased (assuming no really effective medications), because we’ll (on average) die sooner now as there’s a new respiratory illness to carry us off. That’s without considering the increased deaths from medical services being just so overstretched. It’s pretty fucking shit.

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Not a great idea to boast about putting medical
misinformation intentionally on every Covid post.

People who didn’t self-isolate for the flu were inconsiderate, selfish, jerks. Thankfully society has finally become more vocal about calling them out.

If you want to continue on like nothing is happening, go ahead. The rest of us will play it smart.

It reads to me that you are fed up of the current situation, and want things to get better, and that there's some frustration given that you have now been triple jabbed, and life still isn't "normal".
I think that what you are feeling is absolutely normal, but I think you also need to take into account that some people are still scared, and it feels like the responsible thing to lower the risks whilst scared, and the new variant has added more uncertainty.

I hope you manage to see some of the people you were looking forward to seeing over Christmas.

I 100% agree with you OP. My social circle is really fracturing along the faultlines of risk tolerance.

People can choose what they want to do with their life IO, the same way you can.

Can you read the hypocrisy in your OP?

People are cancelling on you because they are prioritising seeing their families at Christmas and they don't want to jeopardise that. I'm fed up of it too but I have a mother recovering from chemo and a MIL who's been hospitalised 4 times this year, I have seen neither of them in 2 years. This year we are absolutely seeing them for Christmas. And friends are just not as important as that. It's shit, no one likes it.