To think taking a baby to Parliament is ridiculous?

[iawbuwes]

Stella Creasy MP taking her baby to the Commons - I think it is utterly ridiculous.

Everyone else has to find childcare. Labour have lost the plot and don’t seem to care what people think (I say this as a life long Labour vote who cannot stomach voting for Labour as it now is). Parliament even have a nursery! www.parliament.uk/about/working/nursery/

@Soontobe60

The hours MPs have to work can be incredibly long. Many MPs don’t live in London, they often have a small flat and the rest of the family stay at their main home. There aren’t many nurseries that are open after 6pm so who would look after the baby in the evenings if the rest of the family are not in London?

@Soontobe60 the parliament nursery is open until 10.30pm. It's says so on the webpage OP has linked to...

There is a very specific point being made here, an MP is an elected position (not a job) and she is required to attend parliament in order to represent her constituents.

There is NO maternity leave, as it is an elected role, and she cannot work from home.

There should be facilities to allow new mothers to fulfil their elected duties. This is the point being made....

@iawbuwes

It is unreasonable for elected representatives not to be given maternity leave - they are elected as individuals. But if they are speaking in parliament they can surely find childcare for that time period. And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents.

Omg. 😳😳😳

Tbh I am kind of with OP on this. Why cant she use a nursery/ childcare etc?

Too expensive?
Too early for her to separate from the baby?
Still breastfeeding etc?

What is the reason/ point shes trying to make. Because I totally agree theres plenty of points to be made on childcare, women in work, maternity leave etc. - but which point is she actually trying to make?

A baby in the workplace won't always be sleeping or feeding. It'll be screaming, needing a nappy change, needing attention, wanting to play and disrupting and distracting everybody. Not only that, but the baby can't be properly cared for either. Let the well paid MP find childcare like everyone else has to.

@iawbuwes

It is unreasonable for elected representatives not to be given maternity leave - they are elected as individuals. But if they are speaking in parliament they can surely find childcare for that time period. And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents.

She has a young baby and she's breastfeeding: her child belongs with her. There's no harm in it and all mothers should have this option, (work safety allowing). As you know, she doesn't have maternity leave, so this is the next best thing.

But everyone else can take maternity leave? Should women of childbearing age be excluded from politics? Or should their babies be denied the right to be exclusively breastfed? Jesus Christ.

Those saying "everyone else has to find childcare" are kind of missing the point that this baby is still very, very young. I am self employed and worked with my baby in tow if I had to go out to work in the first 6 months, and I imagine most other self-employed parents do the same if they can't take maternity leave. If I was going to be out somewhere for a while I brought someone else along who could take the baby if they cried and I'd be amazed if Stella Creasy isn't doing something similar.

She wasn't trying to make a point, she was there to do her job.

Having done her job while her baby slept, she then received an email telling her she was not allowed to bring children into the House of Commons. Now she's trying to make a point, and quite right too.

Nobody forced her to be an MP, and nobody forced her to have a baby either. They were her choices and I don't believe that having a potentially crying child in the house of commons is professional.

@iawbuwes

And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents.

Do you think the same about male MPs? They shouldn't have a term in parliament if they are planning on becoming a father, or have recently become a father? You would say that about them would you?

I had to put my young baby in nursery as I only got 4 weeks full pay - she had a nursery open until 10.30 and she can take maternity leave - she didn’t.

She wants maternity pay, to be able to vote by proxy, free childcare - don’t we all

[quote iawbuwes]Stella Creasy MP taking her baby to the Commons - I think it is utterly ridiculous.

Everyone else has to find childcare. Labour have lost the plot and don’t seem to care what people think (I say this as a life long Labour vote who cannot stomach voting for Labour as it now is). Parliament even have a nursery! www.parliament.uk/about/working/nursery/[/quote]
What an ignorant post.

And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby

Do you think this every time a male MP becomes a father? Didn’t think so.

It’s women being against other women that’s the problem very often in this cases.

And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents

Has anyone told Boris this?

And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents

Well that means parliament can’t be representative then doesn’t it? If we don’t want women of child bearing age in politics that’s the way to go about it.

Why did Johnson get paternity leave?
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-paternity-leave-baby-carrie-symonds-son-downing-street-a9490241.html

And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents.

Someone better have a word with Boris, he’s on baby no 2.

MPs do now get six months paid maternity leave.

I don’t know why do many people don’t Google and do a basic fact check before they post.

From commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9133/

“Maternity provision for MPs
MPs taking maternity leave can apply to the Speaker of the House for a proxy vote which allows another MP to vote on their behalf. For new mothers, the duration of the proxy vote is six months.
MPs continue to receive full pay for six months whilst on maternity leave. MPs on maternity leave can also apply for funding for additional staff.”

It’s women being against other women that’s the problem very often in this cases.

Isn’t it just.

@BewareTheBeardedDragon

But everyone else can take maternity leave? Should women of childbearing age be excluded from politics? Or should their babies be denied the right to be exclusively breastfed? Jesus Christ.

She's in the same position as every other self employed mother.

I say this as a life long Labour vote who cannot stomach voting for Labour as it now is

"As a Lifelong Supporter of Party X I can no longer stomach voting for Party X because of "insert innocuous reason here"".
Bullshit Probability = Very High.

@iawbuwes

It is unreasonable for elected representatives not to be given maternity leave - they are elected as individuals. But if they are speaking in parliament they can surely find childcare for that time period. And maybe your term in parliament is not the ideal time to have a baby, give that your focus is meant to be on your constituents.

But Boris is different though.

Boris was always focused on Boris, not his constituents and most certainly not the country.

Anyone for Peppa Pig?

@Pippa12

Sorry posted too soon.
My MP was away sick , then died, dont think he had any cover, either