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To ask for a warm cruelty free parka

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Teaandlipstick · 22/11/2021 15:07

Writing here for traffic. Please suggest me a warm no animal parka. I would prefer knee length, slim fit. I am also short with 159 cm, so if you are around my height, do you have recommendations for brands or models you prefer?

Thank you so much in advance. I spent hours looking online. My budget is about £300.

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TheBitterBoy · 23/11/2021 23:09

Joules Cherington cost is lovely www.joules.com/Women/Clothing/Cherington/Showerproof-Longline-Padded-Coat?size=10&id=214361|MARNAVY|10

Teaandlipstick · 23/11/2021 23:29

@noedica, thank you. It's quite nice. I love Seasalt.

@TheBitterBoy, this is exactly the look I like, sadly it has fur collar. Would ask the company if it is from recycle material. It is a fab coat. Thank you!

Thank you all. I have a good list of labels to research from. Really appreciate your help :)

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tallduckandhandsome · 24/11/2021 00:06

Do your knees not get cold? Grin

At that price I would want the coat to shin length Wink

givethatbabyaname · 24/11/2021 02:11

How warm do you need it to be?

WaltzingBetty · 24/11/2021 05:01

[quote EerieSilence]@WaltzingBetty - Aigle's manufacturing is in France. Fjallraven e.g. is in China.
If I were after a completely cruelty free clothing, I would go for one made locally from non-animal fibres.

I really love how vegans are bothered that ducks get their throats slit to be eaten and their feathers are used for making jackets but have absolutely no problem with wearing clothes made by workers who often work 7 days a week, with barely any break and women are frequently sexually abused by the bosses. But that's fine, because no animal suffered in the process.[/quote]
@EerieSilence
Could you recommend some please?
It would be great to have brand recommendations that meet ethical principles that you mention. I've recently stopped buying from h and m etc because of their use of forced labour in China. You're clearly passionate so I assume you have constructive suggestions from your own purchases? If you could actually share them that would be helpful.

I think in general sharing information is more helpful than blanket assumptions that vegans are fine with workers being sexually assaulted. It is entirely possible to care about more than one thing at a time and I don't think criticising others based on inaccurate assumptions is the best way of engaging people in these issues, assuming your focus really is on encouraging ethical purchases rather than just slagging off vegans.

EerieSilence · 24/11/2021 15:38

@Teaandlipstick - I have an issue with people who will proudly wear something that's cruelty free but don't care about where it came from.
I don't have an issue with vegans per se. I have an issue with their hypocrisy that's so obvious whenever you talk to them. They don't care about the welfare of the people. They're happy to buy products which were produced by people working in bad conditions as long as they're not animal based.
So let's be precise - vegans don't want cruelty free products. They want non-animal based products. There's a difference.

Mercurial123 · 24/11/2021 16:39

They don't care about the welfare of the people. They're happy to buy products which were produced by people working in bad conditions as long as they're not animal based.
So let's be precise - vegans don't want cruelty free products. They want non-animal based products. There's a difference.

You've spoken to every vegan that might have taken quite some time? In reality you are basing your "research" on probably one or two people.

KeflavikAirport · 24/11/2021 17:05

I have to say I'd have concerns about how animal-friendly synthetic alternatives are in terms of production. There are so-called ethical down producers out there but IDK if they make coats. Vintage is probably the most ethical alternative, as someone pointed out.

WaltzingBetty · 25/11/2021 00:16

[quote EerieSilence]@Teaandlipstick - I have an issue with people who will proudly wear something that's cruelty free but don't care about where it came from.
I don't have an issue with vegans per se. I have an issue with their hypocrisy that's so obvious whenever you talk to them. They don't care about the welfare of the people. They're happy to buy products which were produced by people working in bad conditions as long as they're not animal based.
So let's be precise - vegans don't want cruelty free products. They want non-animal based products. There's a difference.[/quote]
@EerieSilence

Could you answer my questions and share your knowledge then please ?

For someone that 'doesn't have an issue with vegans per se' you've criticised them on every post you've made, made assumptions about all of them as if they're a homogeneous population and provided no constructive advice or recommendations to help any of us make better choices

Do you actually have any ethical recommendations that you could constructively share? Or are you just here to criticise the ethical principles of others whilst doing nothing to actually support the issues you're criticising others for not caring about?

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