To ask for a warm cruelty free parka

[Teaandlipstick]

Writing here for traffic. Please suggest me a warm no animal parka. I would prefer knee length, slim fit. I am also short with 159 cm, so if you are around my height, do you have recommendations for brands or models you prefer?

Thank you so much in advance. I spent hours looking online. My budget is about £300.

I wonder if there are any wool or alpaca type based offerings? Wool etc doesnt have to involve cruelty to the animal and because it's a natural fibre I'd guess it's better for the environment than synthetic options. Wool has loads of great properties too.

[quote Teaandlipstick]@MorrisZapp that jacket is nice. But I am only 159, I am afraid it may not look too round in it.[/quote]
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They've got you covered! The jacket is non puffy at the sides. Your arms fall into a 'groove', to avoid the fat larvae look currently being rocked around the nations shopping centres.

Details, innit :)

Seasalt do this one www.seasaltcornwall.com/pentewan-parka-waterproof-coat

[quote EerieSilence]@Teaandlipstick, i.e. you only apply the cruelty brand to animals but don't give a damn about how the workers are treated in the factory where it was produced? In that case you have a very wide range of products.[/quote]
@EerieSilence could you share your examples of cruelty free then please?
It would be great to learn more about brands that are ethical to people and animals.

Or at least what are your concerns about the brands being suggested so far? My perhaps naive assumption was that most of the quality scandi brands mentioned would be reasonable in terms of production methods. Is that not the case?

I like Musto and Didrikson. Thank you everyone.
@Arabelladrinkstea you can also check hallhuber, save the duck, jackwolfskin. My problem is that most jackets are made for women taller than me.

@Arethechildreninbedyet, I agree with you but I cant bare to wear animal product.
I would find one which is animal free and also sustainable.

I bought this recently and I'm very happy with it www.superdry.com/womens/jackets/details/207422/microfiber-expedition-parka-jacket--brown

Really warm, no animal products used, padding is 100% recycled and more pockets than you'll ever need. Not sure how sustainable/ethical Superdry are in general though tbf.

It isn't knee length though because I find those too much, they do a long version of it though. I'm 5'2" and it covers my bum which is perfect.

www.superdry.com/womens/jackets/details/178978/longline-everest-coat-black

I’ve got this from superdry. Im also short but it fits lovely.

I've got one from next that is made from recycled materials. I love it.

Hush have lots. Thrilled with mine.

66 North seem to be ok with employee welfare

www.66north.com/uk/circular/people-places

@Teaandlipstick

Thank you all Will check these labels. Has anyone tried Save the duck jackets?

I have a Save the Duck coat. Warmest coat I've ever get had and fits beautifully

@WaltzingBetty - Aigle's manufacturing is in France. Fjallraven e.g. is in China.
If I were after a completely cruelty free clothing, I would go for one made locally from non-animal fibres.

I really love how vegans are bothered that ducks get their throats slit to be eaten and their feathers are used for making jackets but have absolutely no problem with wearing clothes made by workers who often work 7 days a week, with barely any break and women are frequently sexually abused by the bosses. But that's fine, because no animal suffered in the process.

Patagonia do down coats made with recycled down, and they're fairly made too.

Cruelty free just depends where you're happy for the cruelty to begin, really.
Synthetic down, unless recycled, is made from petrochemicals that have probably killed/caused suffering for far more animals through loss of habitat and toxic byproducts.

And like a pp said, what about cruelty to the humans who make the coat, too.

Pressed post too soon

All choices are causing suffering somewhere, including "cruelty free" and most ethical brands. There's always a conpromise. The best choice you can make is to buy something that you love and will wear until the end of its life. There's no point buying something ethical only to wear it for a year or two then buy another one.

Patagonia

[quote EerieSilence]@Teaandlipstick, i.e. you only apply the cruelty brand to animals but don't give a damn about how the workers are treated in the factory where it was produced? In that case you have a very wide range of products.[/quote]
Is it possible, I wonder, to care about... both? Or does that not serve your argument?

Cruelty to whom?
Creatures in the down industry. Or humans in the textiles industry?
Or the planet for using more polyester?

B corp companies are probably the only ones ethical. Don't know if any sell coats.

I bought Dd the Superdry everest coat, it comes in a range of lengths and is lovely and warm. With recycled bottles making the filling the coat itself seems very ethical no idea about the company though. If you buy from surfdome it was on sale for £91 instead of £130

This one is Vegan and really warm.

www.hunterboots.com/gb/en_gb/womens-jackets/womens-insulated-rubberised-long-puffer-coat/black/6212

I got a nice wax cotton parka from whistles last year - think it might be out of stock now but this looks like the latest model:

www.johnlewis.com/whistles-gracie-faux-fur-trim-hooded-coat-black/p5746030

I’m size 10 and 5ft 3 and size small fits me with room for thick jumper underneath. It has drawstrings to pull waist tighter and is quite flattering as not bulky, but is warm.

@Teaandlipstick, i.e. you only apply the cruelty brand to animals but don't give a damn about how the workers are treated in the factory where it was produced? In that case you have a very wide range of products.

Aigle's manufacturing is in France. Fjallraven e.g. is in China.
If I were after a completely cruelty free clothing, I would go for one made locally from non-animal fibres.
I really love how vegans are bothered that ducks get their throats slit to be eaten and their feathers are used for making jackets but have absolutely no problem with wearing clothes made by workers who often work 7 days a week, with barely any break and women are frequently sexually abused by the bosses. But that's fine, because no animal suffered in the process.

@EerieSilence, I don't get your last 2 angry posts. I didn't say I don't care for employee welfare, and at least wait for me to respond to one accusatory post before you launch another.

Most parkas use down feathers, so I wanted to specify that I don't want animal product, is there a problem with that? Usually the brands which care for 'bottom of hierarchy' helpless animals, also care for human welfare, so how did you jump to conclusion that I am ok with workers being sexually assaulted?
You seem to have some issue with vegans, which some meat consuming posters on mumsnet do and hence reacting on 'cruelty free'. I don't want any living being killed for my jacket but I am not asking you to choose a product based on my values, and I don't need you to tell me what I should care for.

Also, if you care so much about employees rights, I am hoping you don't buy from average high street brands. Not every employer in China is horrible, and unless you are using any electronics, you should not be telling people buying a jacket made in China is worse than one made in France. People work for bad employers because they have no other options and you suggesting people choose a French manufacturer over China is NOT caring for desperate workers willing to work in poor conditions.

@GrrrlPwr Cruelty to helpless animals I meant but I also care for human welfare and environment sustainability. I agree it's very hard to find a product ticking all the boxes.

@DukkaDukka, @cadburyegg, Thank you for suggesting Superdry. These parkas look great

I love my Seasalt Plant Hunter coat and it's good for rainy days too. Knee length on me, I'm 5ft3. Seasalt is an ethical company and their coats last for years so are very good from a sustainable perspective.