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Would you eat at a restaurant that didn't serve alcohol?

488 replies

Yearn · 22/11/2021 02:40

If a restaurant served only soft drinks and alcohol-free beers/wines/cocktails would you eat there on an evening? Even on a Friday/Saturday night. No BYOB either.

YABU - Yes, I would eat there even on a weekend night.
YANBU - No, I wouldn't eat there on an evening.

OP posts:
iolaus · 23/11/2021 20:45

If I liked the look of the food

I would find places that offered only alcohol free beer/wines a little weird - in a way that if they just didn't have beer/wine at all I wouldn't - kind of that they feel they should have that category on the menu rather than just supplying soft drinks / teas / coffees /mixed fruit drinks etc

WomanStanleyWoman · 23/11/2021 20:47

[quote keffie12]There are people in the world who don't drink for reasons of sobriety, allergic to alcohol, fath and much more.

As a sober member of a 12 step program I don't drink and haven't for 18 and a half years. There are millions of us worldwide who don't.

People who have no addiction problems don't always want to drink and prefer "dry bars" of which rheew are many around the U.K.

People who have youngsters may not want to drink. Me I was a binge drinker and knew it had to go.

There are alot of dry bars/restaurants in the U.K though mainly in the big cities.

People who think it's wrong and bizarre perhaps need to look at there own drinking patterns just as and millions of us have had too

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/21/dry-bars-is-england-sobering-up[/quote]
Nothing worse than a convert…

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 23/11/2021 20:48

It wouldn't bother me at all but I don't really drink that often and I tend to find for me if I'm drinking wine it tastes awful with food.

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 23/11/2021 20:50

My favourite Lebanese restaurant Tabule in Moseley has a strict no alcohol policy and it’s always packed.

I agree there are plenty that allow you to bring your own but I still don’t think for a lot of people the draw in a restaurant is the alcohol offerings.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 23/11/2021 20:53

@WomanStanleyWoman I disagree, my mother who is a converted recovering alcoholic is an awful lot better than my mother who is an alcoholic drinking herself to death.

However I do agree that self righteous non drinkers are annoying.

WomanStanleyWoman · 23/11/2021 20:56

[quote keffie12]There are people in the world who don't drink for reasons of sobriety, allergic to alcohol, fath and much more.

As a sober member of a 12 step program I don't drink and haven't for 18 and a half years. There are millions of us worldwide who don't.

People who have no addiction problems don't always want to drink and prefer "dry bars" of which rheew are many around the U.K.

People who have youngsters may not want to drink. Me I was a binge drinker and knew it had to go.

There are alot of dry bars/restaurants in the U.K though mainly in the big cities.

People who think it's wrong and bizarre perhaps need to look at there own drinking patterns just as and millions of us have had too

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/21/dry-bars-is-england-sobering-up[/quote]
Also, that article is seven years old, and three of the four businesses referenced are no longer in existence. The surviving one is a café that closes at 4pm.

WomanStanleyWoman · 23/11/2021 21:00

[quote WhenISnappedAndFarted]@WomanStanleyWoman I disagree, my mother who is a converted recovering alcoholic is an awful lot better than my mother who is an alcoholic drinking herself to death.

However I do agree that self righteous non drinkers are annoying.[/quote]
Sorry; my phrasing was too glib there. I didn’t mean to criticise people who have battled addiction. I was thinking of the preachy ‘Now I understand I was addicted, but I’ve seen the light, so you all should too’ attitude I’ve seen sometimes. I apologise if it came across as a universal criticism Smile

Whyyyyyyyohhhhhwhyyyyyy · 23/11/2021 21:02

Yes because I don't drink alcohol at all.

waitingpatientlyforspring · 23/11/2021 21:05

No, I wouldn't eat of I couldn't drink.

h1nch · 23/11/2021 21:07

Either this is a joke question or you seriously need to evaluate your relationship with alcohol?

Bobsyer · 23/11/2021 21:11

I would. Even though I rarely drink, I do like to have the option. If it wasn't served then it still be ok although I'd think it odd.

QueenofLouisiana · 23/11/2021 21:26

We have to drive to every restaurant, so yes I'd happily go to one without booze. I'd like decent alternatives, not just Diet Coke though.

logsonlogsoff · 23/11/2021 21:28

The good would have to be special

Fluffmum · 23/11/2021 21:37

Of course. Not a big deal

NiellyNoFive · 23/11/2021 22:14

For lunch I wouldn't mind but not for dinner no

pollymere · 23/11/2021 22:22

I hate eating in restaurants where the only low calorie drinks are water or diet coke. I still do it though if my friends want to eat there. I prefer restaurants with a good choice of any drink myself though. You are BU if it's the odd occasion and you are there to enjoy the food are you not?

Cheeko69 · 23/11/2021 22:26

I'm a complete booze hound but I'd definitely eat at a teetotal restaurant if the food was good.

Harmonypuss · 23/11/2021 22:27

Considering that my partner is teetotal and I only have 1 or 2 drinks maybe 3 times a year, yes, of course we'd eat somewhere that doesn't serve alcohol, why wouldn't we?

shiningjustforyou · 23/11/2021 22:32

If I was going out for a mid week meal and driving or was maybe meeting a friend who doesn't drink then yeah. Friday or Saturday night then no, I'm out for the night and that would mean wine and cocktails.

Fleshmechanic · 23/11/2021 22:38

I never drink alcohol at a meal so wouldn't notice if they did or didn't sell it anyway.

Yearn · 23/11/2021 22:45

@h1nch

Either this is a joke question or you seriously need to evaluate your relationship with alcohol?
No, it's not a joke. The way I labelled the vote has nothing at all to do with my opinions on alcohol.

Did you read at least some of the thread? There are a surprising amount of people who would flat out refuse to dine at a dry restaurant, no matter how good the food is. I do find that surprising, but at the same time I don't. I think a lot of people like to kid themselves that they always pick a wine that compliments the food because it improves the meal when in reality 95% of people pick the wine they drink/like the sound of the most, or even the one that's cheapest, in my experience.

Personally, I don't think a dry restaurant is viable, at least not as an evening/dinner place. Breakfast and lunch, sure, but unless you are in an area with a large non-drinking population (which is usually for religious reasons so you would have to cater with halal rules etc. in mind) I think you'll be hard pressed to get the foot fall in the evenings, especially at the weekend.

Most restaurants fail in their first year, for a variety of reasons and I do think alcohol sales are, with their huge markup, a great way of making money. It's about an 80% margin, whereas food is generally 60-67% margin. Even if you only have 10 customers one night you'll barely even break even on the food but if they're buying mixed drinks or wine by the glass then you'll most likely have most of your wage costs for the night covered.

Discussing this with friends who are also in the industry it was pretty evenly split between "I'd only go if someone else chose it" and "food is what matters". Whereas amongst the general public I think it's a definite "Nah, especially not a weekend!" despite what this vote shows. You could have a beautiful restaurant in a great location with amazing food and an exciting soft drinks menu and still lose out to the place with the mediocre food and bad service just because it has a wine list and 30 gins.

OP posts:
Caoilinsmum1 · 23/11/2021 23:39

Yes, why do they have to serve alcohol?

BasiliskStare · 23/11/2021 23:41

Well I like a glass of wine with my meal ( could not be arsed to go a bar afterwards if not an option with meal - either meal no alcohol or don't go. I'd go if chosen by friends ) but really - there are drinkers and drinkers. Those who are drinkers with a problem or cause others a problem in a restaurant. and those who enjoy a glass of wine or a G&T at the weekend and equally - those who just do not like the stuff or have made a conscious decision not to drink alcohol at all or designated driver etc

I think lumping "drinkers" into one category of loud , roistery , problematic people is lazy.
Personally we are going out for a celebratory meal this weekend & I will enjoy a glass or two whilst looking at the menu & eating. ( I can promise MN I will not be shouting or banging the table. Grin ) It is a fairly rare occasion for me where I can get a bit scrubbed up and go somewhere nice. It is a treat.

winnieanddaisy · 23/11/2021 23:59

Yes. I'm teetotal .

keffie12 · 24/11/2021 02:20

If you are referring to me please read my post properly! I said I was in a 12 step program. That means I am also sober/in recovery whatever you wish to call it in A.A. Yes I am 18 and a half years sober.

You don't know me if any of that was aimed at me. If others want to drink that's fine. My post was about the reasons people don't drink alcohol.
There is also nothing worse either than people who think its weird because you don't drink.

That's one article. Fine it's out of date. There are plenty of places like it still going.

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