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Would you eat at a restaurant that didn't serve alcohol?

488 replies

Yearn · 22/11/2021 02:40

If a restaurant served only soft drinks and alcohol-free beers/wines/cocktails would you eat there on an evening? Even on a Friday/Saturday night. No BYOB either.

YABU - Yes, I would eat there even on a weekend night.
YANBU - No, I wouldn't eat there on an evening.

OP posts:
LittleGwyneth · 22/11/2021 12:34

@Almostmenopausal

Genuinely aghast at all the alcoholics & wine-o's on here Shock I can't remember the last time I drank alcohol with a meal
I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction. Also at the number of adults who would drink a cup of tea as a beverage during an evening meal.
ChardonnaysPetDragon · 22/11/2021 12:35

I like a drink as much as anyone, but if I invited a friend out to a restaurant like some of the good indian places that are alchol free, and they said they wouldn't come because they couldn't stand to be without booze for a few hours, I would be genuinely concerned about them.

Really? If someone told you they would like a glass of wine with their food you would think they could not stand to be without booze for a couple of hours?

You sound very judgemental and uptight.

gannett · 22/11/2021 12:40

Plus I would assume that the quality of everything else would be fairly shit if they weren't able to sort out a booze licence.

You'd assume wrongly, then. Some of the best food I've ever eaten has been at places with no booze licence.

I wouldn't think anyone who refused to go to a dry restaurant was an alcoholic but I would definitely think they weren't a foodie.

Rewis · 22/11/2021 12:41

It would depend a lot on the cuisine and ambiance.

7 course tasting menu? Id expect a wine package.

High end restaurst to go with a group of friends ti sownd the evening? I'd like some some wine.

Burgers? Street food? Thai? Indian? Wouldn't bother one bit.

TheKeatingFive · 22/11/2021 12:41

I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction.

MN is barking about alcohol

Hairbrush123 · 22/11/2021 12:42

I’m teetotal so it makes zero difference to me. So yes I would.

Inastatus · 22/11/2021 12:45

@TheKeatingFive

I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction.

MN is barking about alcohol

@TheKeatingFive - you are right there. Thankfully I don’t know anyone irl who has this attitude towards alcohol!
Wellarentyouacleverdick · 22/11/2021 12:46

I would eat there if whoever I was eating with really wanted to for example if they were in AA or opposed to alcohol for religious reasons. I'd be going to enjoy their company and some (hopefully) nice food not drink.

But I wouldn't choose it as a nice meal out for me. I like a glass of wine with my food!

I certainly do not have a drinking problem... I probably drink two/three glasses of wine a month! (when I go out for dinner with DH for our little date nights away from the children!).

BigYellowHat · 22/11/2021 12:48

Of course 🤷‍♀️ I quite often just have a soft drink when we go out, I’m not an alcoholic.

RaisedByPangolins · 22/11/2021 12:50

I don’t drink alcohol and nor does DP, except the odd one on holiday maybe. We always get a big bottle of sparkling water with dinner. I guess if you love wine and always drink the right one to go with your meal etc it might seem weird but for us, not at all.

countrygirl99 · 22/11/2021 12:51

As long as the available drinks are better than the usual sickly fizz or J2O not a problem. I wouldn't to any restaurant where the food isn't great though.

RaisedByPangolins · 22/11/2021 12:53

I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction.

I think the point isn’t that a glass of wine with dinner is an addiction, but that even if the food in a restaurant was amazing, you wouldn’t go there because you can’t drink that points to an addiction. Once you associate alcohol with eating and don’t enjoy eating without wine then the focus has become more about the wine than the meal.

I’ll happily say that I’m addicted to food! Every trip I take, every holiday, meeting friends or family etc, it becomes focussed on the food. To me a holiday where I didn’t get to eat amazing things would be no holiday at all and I wouldn’t want to go. But I know that’s probably disordered eating.

goose1964 · 22/11/2021 12:54

We've done it a few times, although DH doesn't like it a couple of times it was in a Muslim restaurant. We've also eaten in Poland where we had borscht as a hot drink.

TheKeatingFive · 22/11/2021 12:55

but that even if the food in a restaurant was amazing, you wouldn’t go there because you can’t drink that points to an addiction.

Plenty of cuisines are actively enhanced by wine, so you wouldn't be getting the most out of the food if you didn't have that aspect.

QueenofKattegat · 22/11/2021 12:57

Also at the number of adults who would drink a cup of tea as a beverage during an evening meal

It's a MN thread about alcohol, come on! We had the "you've got a problem" post on page 1! That must be a record.

gannett · 22/11/2021 12:58

@RaisedByPangolins

I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction.

I think the point isn’t that a glass of wine with dinner is an addiction, but that even if the food in a restaurant was amazing, you wouldn’t go there because you can’t drink that points to an addiction. Once you associate alcohol with eating and don’t enjoy eating without wine then the focus has become more about the wine than the meal.

I’ll happily say that I’m addicted to food! Every trip I take, every holiday, meeting friends or family etc, it becomes focussed on the food. To me a holiday where I didn’t get to eat amazing things would be no holiday at all and I wouldn’t want to go. But I know that’s probably disordered eating.

Same. When I plan a holiday the first things DP and I look at are the restaurants. Then it's a question of allowing enough time after lunch to be hungry again for dinner. Everything else fits in around that.

Another thing confusing me on this thread is the idea that there's a singular restaurant experience... they're all different. Some are fancy, some are boozy, some are comforting, some are cheap and cheerful, some are even alcohol-free.

MarshaBradyo · 22/11/2021 12:58

@TheKeatingFive

I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction.

MN is barking about alcohol

So if you enjoy the rare evening at a good restaurant and include wine or champagne in the mix you should seek help / wine-o and alcoholic. Mn is indeed bonkers on this.

Op I won’t drink at a quick place eg nice burgers for dc but if I go out to socialise etc then yes I would like the above available.

SW1amp · 22/11/2021 12:59

@RaisedByPangolins

I'm aghast at the number of adults who think that enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner is tantamount to an addiction.

I think the point isn’t that a glass of wine with dinner is an addiction, but that even if the food in a restaurant was amazing, you wouldn’t go there because you can’t drink that points to an addiction. Once you associate alcohol with eating and don’t enjoy eating without wine then the focus has become more about the wine than the meal.

I’ll happily say that I’m addicted to food! Every trip I take, every holiday, meeting friends or family etc, it becomes focussed on the food. To me a holiday where I didn’t get to eat amazing things would be no holiday at all and I wouldn’t want to go. But I know that’s probably disordered eating.

I think the bigger point is that very very few restaurants that refuse to serve alcohol will be ‘amazing’

Even the very best Indian restaurants in Tooting and Brick Lane are BYOB

A restaurant which for whatever reason has banned alcohol from the premises is not thinking about the wider dining experience so for me, it would be shorthand for the food being substandard as well

I’m happy to be proved wrong but in decades of eating out, I’ve never come across a restaurant that didn’t see good food and good wine as synonymous

And of course I’ve eaten out countless times without actually drinking, either during pregnancy or illness or out of respect for other guests I’m with

But that’s not the same as a restaurant that takes an active anti-alcohol stance

And also, restaurants make a lot of their profits on drinks sales
So without alcohol to boost margins, they will have to make the food a lot more expensive

A dry restaurant opened in London recently to great fanfare, but a few months in, all the reviews are the same - the food is too expensive, the mocktails don’t go with food and the whole thing is style over substance

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 22/11/2021 13:00

@RaisedByPangolins

If the restaurant had absolutely amazing food but the staff were rude, would you still go?

If the food was amazing but the chairs were uncomfortable, would you still go?

If the food was amazing but there was nowhere nearby to park, would you still go?

If the food was amazing but the restaurant toilets smelt and it wafted around the room, would you still go?

Avoiding alcohol free restaurants doesn’t point to an addiction. It’s just part of the experience. I usually don’t drink alcohol when we’re out for a meal but I’d like to have the option if I fancied it.

2Left0rRight2 · 22/11/2021 13:00

Yes, because I've travelled abroad to places where alcohol is not permitted

I can have a meal with tea, soft drink, coffee

MarshaBradyo · 22/11/2021 13:01

@QueenofKattegat

Also at the number of adults who would drink a cup of tea as a beverage during an evening meal

It's a MN thread about alcohol, come on! We had the "you've got a problem" post on page 1! That must be a record.

People just go for more extreme statements

Seek help etc

For going out to dinner and having wine.

funinthesun19 · 22/11/2021 13:02

I very very very rarely drink any alcohol so I would happily eat there.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 22/11/2021 13:03

How is food enhanced by a soft drink, which, let’s face it is artificially flavoured artificially sweetened and artificially fizzy water?

Or coffee?

I’ll have a latte with my rare steak, thanks?

Boood · 22/11/2021 13:05

I would not go to a restaurant on a Friday or Saturday night if it didn’t either serve alcohol or allow BYO. Drinking is part of an enjoyable weekend evening to me. I don’t usually drink at other times, so midweek or at lunchtime I wouldn’t be bothered. However, the cuisines I enjoy (including North African and Middle Eastern ones) are generally enhanced by nice wine, and I’d be concerned about the palates of restaurateurs who didn’t embrace that.

daisybrown37 · 22/11/2021 13:06

I guess it depends. Lunch with the kids, then fine with no drink. Rare evening out with H or friends then I would prefer the option to have an alcoholic drink with my meal.