Early Christmas decorations = working class

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I know Mumsnet loves a class debate, so thought I’d share an argument I had with a friend last night.

She insists that only working class people put their Christmas decorations up in November, I insisted she’s a snob and class is more redundant these days so it’s a ridiculous argument.

So Vipers, I’ll ask the question as if it is coming from me to make it easier:

AIBU to think only working class people put their Christmas decorations up in November?

Yabu - No, don’t be such a snob, middle class people do too.

YANBU - Yes, it’s a working class thing.

I will be showing her the results of this.

@TheKeatingFive

I am lolling at the knowledge that you'll be judged for the tone of your white lights. 😂

It's a tough old world

I might mix cold and warm light, cause a local scandal 🤣

@TheKeatingFive

I am lolling at the knowledge that you'll be judged for the tone of your white lights. 😂

It's a tough old world

Come on over to the ‘boiling water tap’ thread, on which I have just said that in my experience Quookers and the like are a lower-middle-class thing. There could be a survey about the correlation of whether you have a Quooker and the exact tone of your white lights.

Well I’ve just heard this morning that her maj the queen has put hers up …

Well, there you are then; parvenus

I don't think its an issue of class we used to put our decorations up on 13th December but now we have kids we put them up on 1st Dec or the weekend before -so this year it will be November- I think it depends on whether you have young kids or just love christmas regardless of class!
We live in a very middle class area but there are a lot of families so decorations are put up a bit earlier!

All the middle class homes in my area are already trying to out do each other with lights outside their house.

I think it's a bonkers argument and I don't think it makes much sense.

How do you even see into everyone's houses to know this?

Your friend is (Christmas) crackers.

Isn't this year one of those weird ones where the first sunday of advent falls in November?

Therefore bein legitimate to put up the tree on Sunday?

Also Santa's Grotto here is coming along nicely.

I may be done by the 1st.

All the middle class homes in my area are already trying to out do each other with lights outside their house

Those better be warm white lights, or they might find themselves removed from the MC!

How do you see into everyone's houses? Well MC houses can be, as once described by a small child, 'houses you can see through'. Ie no nets with a clear view through to the bifold and landscaping beyond, skilfully illuminated in this season by a charming display of elegant tree draped with warm white lights. And if it doesn't look like that, they close the curtains like most of us to conceal our gaudy mix of ancient relics and assorted lights on our spindly trees. I'm off to put a flashing reindeer in the garden.

Ooo i need to get the reindeer out yet.

So far decorations are all at the back of the house. You cant see them from the front.

I have red lights, blue lights, ice cold lights, warm white lights, multi colour lights, purple flashing lights.

You'd all hate me.

I want a pretty wicker reindeer, but they're ridiculously expensive and I don't know what to do with it the rest of the year

Disguise it as a small summerhouse and grow some ivy up it. Dual purpose.

@TrickyD

Strange that it is OK to say on MN "I am proud to be working class", but should anyone say they are proud to be middle class they would be derided and accused of snobbery.

@TrickyD

The glaring difference is that when people say they are working class, that's all they say, apart from occasionally 'working class and proud...'

When someone comes on to a thread on here, and states they are middle class, it's very often spouted alongside nasty, spiteful, derogatory, sneering, demeaning comments about the working classes/lower classes. The wannabe middle classes make comments about 'chavs with brightly lit inflatable santas on the roof,' and how 'only common folk live in council houses, which they get for free anyway' (yes some people are that stupid that they believe council houses are given for free to people.)

Then there's the derogatory sneering about how people are more likely to be lower class if they have regional accents, or if they have 4 or more kids, or if they say tea instead of dinner, or if they started having kids in their teens, (and some say only badly educated lower class people have kids in their TWENTIES FFS!!) The comments about how people are common/chavvy, and 'not middle class like meeeee,' often follows the 'middle class person here' comments.

THAT is why it's OK when people say they're working class, because it's never followed by a tirade of nasty spiteful insults towards people of a 'lower' class. Whereas people (on here) who claim they are middle class, almost always come out with a bunch of derogatory comments about people they deem to be 'lower' than them in society...

@LittleDandelionClock wow, I see it the other way, lots of sneering comments and put downs about tarquin and Jocasta. I guess we all see things from our own perspective.
Heaven forbid someone should ask about an expensive watch or private school, they usually get mauled.

[quote Lemonjiffy]@LittleDandelionClock wow, I see it the other way, lots of sneering comments and put downs about tarquin and Jocasta. I guess we all see things from our own perspective.
Heaven forbid someone should ask about an expensive watch or private school, they usually get mauled.[/quote]
Do they? I’ve seen lots of threads of things like ‘which school is better for x type of child’ with private (quite posh schools). I don’t post on them because realistically I don’t have a clue which private school is better for a quiet sensitive child but never seen anyone being horrible.

Same with expensive items, I have posted on threads like ‘I have a budget for a designer watch/handbag, which one’ because although I couldn’t afford them I still have a wish list!

But I presume you mean threads like ‘aibu - don’t understand why anyone would send their child to state school’ or ‘aibu why would anyone wear cheap nasty Pandora.’

Because those threads aren’t really about expensive watches or private school, just another exercise in kicking down.

@longwayoff

Disguise it as a small summerhouse and grow some ivy up it. Dual purpose.

Lovely idea!

Traditional folks are less likely to put decs up earlier in my subjective, anecdotal opinion. This can sometimes be equated with posh. MIL Christmas tree was the 24th, a day or 2 earlier at a push.

However lots of stately homes have already hosted their Christmas markets and start their Christmas garden light trails tomorrow so - the juries out 😂.

Most people just fall into category of "whenever I want to, thanks'

@Marchitectmummy you can't use Advent as a reason to put the decorations up!

Advent is the season of fasting, penitence and preparation. Only after the O Antiphons is it appropriate to start thinking of celebrations.

I'm extremely working class and mine go up in December

[quote merryhouse]@Marchitectmummy you can't use Advent as a reason to put the decorations up!

Advent is the season of fasting, penitence and preparation. Only after the O Antiphons is it appropriate to start thinking of celebrations.[/quote]
There are certainly countries that celebrate Advent and put a bunch of decorations out for it, though most tend to leave to only lit stars and candle bridges in the windows, as well as an Advent candle holder. Possibly a poinsettia and other small things.

Ok if I can't use advent as an excuse, can I use the fact its a month til Christmas instead?

I need a decent shit excuse!

Why would someone put decorations up in November?

@cherish123

Why would someone put decorations up in November?

Because of Advent.

@cherish123

Why would someone put decorations up in November?

Because they’re working class yobbos. They don’t know any better and since they don’t get even a scrap of joy throughout the year they just can’t hold themselves back and practice delayed gratification.